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Indiana / SXCE / Sun Solaris 10 / Nevada - Gawd I'm
CONFUSED
Posted:
Nov 1, 2007 5:26 PM
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"Proposition 1" (P1)
Schillix, Martux,Belenix and NexentaOS are obviously not going to be
Sun Solaris 11.
"Proposition 2" (P2)
SXCE (and SXDE) are going to be Sun Solaris 11 eventually, or at least
their aim is to provide an unstable testing bed for Solaris 11
Note: The C stands for "Community".
"Proposition 3" (P3)
Somehow Indiana became THE one and only (?) OpenSolaris community
distribution.
Let's do some propositional logic:
--
Let's assume P1 is correct
* (P1 && P2) is true
* (P1 && P3) is true
--
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Let's assume P2 is correct AND P3 is correct
* (P1 && P3) is false
If there is only ONE community OpenSolaris edition, then SXCE can't
possibly be it, if P3 is true.
--
Now let's make some wild statements:
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"Sun Microsystems will base their distribution on SXCE." (S1)
* (P2 && S1) is true
But this means that:
* (P3 && S1) is false
...and Solaris 11 (i.e. the one you can pay for that is the REAL Unix
(tm) Solaris) won't be based on the Indiana (community) distribution.
"Sun Microssystems will base their distribution on Indiana." (S2)
* (P2 && S2) is false
* (P2 && S3) is true
But WHAT is SXCE then - just a "name"?
...
When I joined the OpenSolaris community I quickly learned and understood
what Schillix, Belenix, NexentaOS, SXCE and then SXDE were, and what
Solaris 11 would come from.
But with the arrival of Indiana, I've become confused about:
* SXCE
* SCDE
* Solaris 11
My goal is to participate in the community part of helping to develop
Solaris 11 - but I think the community took a turn and I missed it.
DSL
(PS: This isn't a rant AGAINST any of the distributions including
Indiana. I think that Ian Murdock's explanation of its purpose is quite
good.
It's just me trying to express my confusion as I think I've missed
something.)
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Re: Indiana / SXCE / Sun Solaris 10 / Nevada - Gawd I'm CONFUSED
Posted:
Nov 1, 2007 7:56 PM
in response to: lloy0076
To: OpenSolaris » discuss
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>
> "Proposition 1" (P1)
>
> Schillix, Martux,Belenix and NexentaOS are
> obviously not going to be
> Sun Solaris 11.
Correct
> Proposition 2" (P2)
>
> SXCE (and SXDE) are going to be Sun Solaris 11
> eventually, or at least
> their aim is to provide an unstable testing bed
> for Solaris 11
> Note: The C stands for "Community".
I think that this has changed now...SXCE and SXDE will be discontinued from what I understand.
> roposition 3" (P3)
>
> Somehow Indiana became THE one and only (?)
> OpenSolaris community
> distribution.
I would say that Indiana is a binary culmination and refernce of OpenSolaris
> et's do some propositional logic:
>
> --
> Let's assume P1 is correct
>
> * (P1 && P2) is true
In my opinion it is not, based upon my answer to P2
> * (P1 && P3) is true
> --
>
> --
> Let's assume P2 is correct AND P3 is correct
>
> * (P1 && P3) is false
>
> If there is only ONE community OpenSolaris edition,
> then SXCE can't
> possibly be it, if P3 is true.
> --
>
> Now let's make some wild statements:
>
> --
>
> "Sun Microsystems will base their distribution on
> SXCE." (S1)
>
> * (P2 && S1) is true
>
> But this means that:
>
> * (P3 && S1) is false
>
> ...and Solaris 11 (i.e. the one you can pay for that
> is the REAL Unix
> (tm) Solaris) won't be based on the Indiana
> (community) distribution.
Pay for??? As to what 'Solaris 11' or 'next' as some like to call it will be, that has nothing to do with the community, it is up to Sun what they do. I very much doubt that at this early stage much info re this will come out
>
> "Sun Microssystems will base their distribution on
> Indiana." (S2)
>
> * (P2 && S2) is false
> * (P2 && S3) is true
>
You lost me here.
> But WHAT is SXCE then - just a "name"?
SXCE will be depricated
>
> ...
>
> When I joined the OpenSolaris community I quickly
> learned and understood
> what Schillix, Belenix, NexentaOS, SXCE and then SXDE
> were, and what
> Solaris 11 would come from.
>
> But with the arrival of Indiana, I've become confused
> about:
>
> * SXCE
> * SCDE
> * Solaris 11
>
> My goal is to participate in the community part of
> helping to develop
> Solaris 11 - but I think the community took a turn
> and I missed it.
>
> DSL
>
> (PS: This isn't a rant AGAINST any of the
> distributions including
> Indiana. I think that Ian Murdock's explanation of
> its purpose is quite
> good.
>
> It's just me trying to express my confusion as I
> think I've missed
> something.)
This is the confusion that Indiana will address hopefully
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Re: Indiana / SXCE / Sun Solaris 10 / Nevada - Gawd
I'm CONFUSED
Posted:
Nov 2, 2007 12:30 AM
in response to: che
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>I think that this has changed now...SXCE and SXDE will be discontinued from what I understand.
SXDE quickly, SXCE not quite so quickly.
>> roposition 3" (P3)
>>
>> Somehow Indiana became THE one and only (?)
>> OpenSolaris community
>> distribution.
>
>I would say that Indiana is a binary culmination and refernce of OpenSolaris
It cannot be a reference distribution as it has undergone no architectural
review whatsoever.
Casper
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Re: Indiana / SXCE / Sun Solaris 10 / Nevada -
Gawd I'm CONFUSED
Posted:
Nov 2, 2007 2:53 AM
in response to: che
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On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 07:56:14PM -0700, Ch?? Kristo wrote:
> >
> > SXCE (and SXDE) are going to be Sun Solaris 11
> > eventually, or at least
> > their aim is to provide an unstable testing bed
> > for Solaris 11
> > Note: The C stands for "Community".
>
> I think that this has changed now...SXCE and SXDE will be discontinued from what I understand.
Where did you read that?
Ceri
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Re: Indiana / SXCE / Sun Solaris 10 / Nevada - Gawd
I'm CONFUSED
Posted:
Nov 2, 2007 11:21 PM
in response to: ceri
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On 02/11/2007, Ceri Davies <ceri at submonkey dot net> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 07:56:14PM -0700, Ch?? Kristo wrote:
> > >
> > > SXCE (and SXDE) are going to be Sun Solaris 11
> > > eventually, or at least
> > > their aim is to provide an unstable testing bed
> > > for Solaris 11
> > > Note: The C stands for "Community".
> >
> > I think that this has changed now...SXCE and SXDE will be discontinued from what I understand.
>
> Where did you read that?
It was discussed at the Developer's Summit as a possibility in the
near future (i.e. early next year).
--
Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst
http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/
"We don't have enough parallel universes to allow all uses of all
junction types--in the absence of quantum computing the combinatorics
are not in our favor..." --Larry Wall
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