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Sep 26, 2005 3:27 PM
by: Derek Cicero
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From:
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spammers roomity.com hitting opensolaris list users
Posted:
Sep 9, 2005 8:50 AM
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I got a spam from roomity.com which was supposedly in response to an opensolaris.org posting:
"I was reading your posts on the osol-discuss mailing group yesterday, and think our site may be of interest to you. It will put all the posts from the group on one page, and keep your inbox cleaner. There is nothing to buy, and there is a video demo, if you like. If you do get a chance to check it out, let me know what you think of it - I would love to hear your thoughts."
A google search shows other list owners seeing addresses from roomity.com subscribing to all their lists and other users reporting their spamming. I would like to suggest that subscribers from that domain be removed from the opensolaris.org lists and prevented from subscribing.
In the likely event that others of you got spammed, forward the message with complete headers to their network provide: abuse@he.net
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Derek Cicero
derek.cicero@sun.com
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Re: spammers roomity.com hitting opensolaris list
users
Posted:
Sep 16, 2005 5:29 PM
in response to: jimlick
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James Lick wrote:
> I got a spam from roomity.com which was supposedly in response to an
> opensolaris.org posting:
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> "I was reading your posts on the osol-discuss mailing group yesterday,
> and think our site may be of interest to you. It will put all the
> posts from the group on one page, and keep your inbox cleaner. There
> is nothing to buy, and there is a video demo, if you like. If you do
> get a chance to check it out, let me know what you think of it - I
> would love to hear your thoughts."
>
> A google search shows other list owners seeing addresses from
> roomity.com subscribing to all their lists and other users reporting
> their spamming. I would like to suggest that subscribers from that
> domain be removed from the opensolaris.org lists and prevented from
> subscribing.
>
> In the likely event that others of you got spammed, forward the
> message with complete headers to their network provide: abuse at he dot net
James,
Sorry for the delay in getting back you on this, I was out of the office
for awhile. I will remove all the roomity.com accounts from the mail lists.
Thanks for the heads up.
Derek
> _______________________________________________
> website-discuss mailing list
> website-discuss at opensolaris dot org
>
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Derek Cicero
Program Manager
Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division
_______________________________________________
website-discuss mailing list
website-discuss at opensolaris dot org
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From:
dalals
Registered:
9/26/05
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Re: spammers roomity.com hitting opensolaris list
users
Posted:
Sep 26, 2005 6:57 AM
in response to: Derek Cicero
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Derek Cicero,
James Lick lies, it's not true. Should he not have to prove? He.net mail admins ignore him.
I am CEO of roomity. We are a Sun partners, providing a Sun Java commericial application that mirrors mail list, just like other companies do (Gmane, Mail-Arcvhive, etc) and emable users to search etc. Differences is that we are writen in Java.
James, and very few othrs, did receive a Personal Email by a live person based on his posting of the list, just like get of the list postings all the time. He is cauasing me comercail damange... but he is in China where most spam origrinates and one can just accuse; and not much I can do about it.
In any case, he should probe what he is saying, else.. you realy should not discriminate who mirrors your mail list.
click http://solaris.roomity.com to see it :-)
.V
cell 917 825 3035
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James Lick
jlick@drivel.com
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Re: Re: spammers roomity.com hitting opensolaris
list users
Posted:
Sep 26, 2005 10:30 AM
in response to: netsql
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Vic Cekvenich wrote:
>Derek Cicero,
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>James Lick lies, it's not true. Should he not have to prove? He.net mail admins ignore him.
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You keep saying that I'm lying, both here and to abuse at he dot net but you
then ignore me when I ask for clarification. As for what I posted here,
I said that I got an ad from your company, that I considered it spam,
and that other people had received similiar messages and also considered
them to be spam. Anyone in any doubt can plug "roomity.com spam" into
google and see for yourself. I've attached below some of the links I
came across.
>James, and very few othrs, did receive a Personal Email by a live person based on his posting of the list, just like get of the list postings all the time.
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And other people got virtually identical messages from your company and
also considered them to be spam.
>He is cauasing me comercail damange... but he is in China where most spam origrinates and one can just accuse; and not much I can do about it.
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I've already replied to you before that I do not live in China. Also as
an aside, the US is the number one source of spam, with China being
number 2 (according to Spamhaus). As to whatever damage has occurred,
it directly stems from your own activities. If you don't like people
talking about what you are doing, don't do it!
>In any case, he should probe what he is saying, else..
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Likewise you should look into the accuracy of what Mr. Cekvenich is
saying. I would hope that Derek takes a look at the links below and
also some of the newer links you can find in google about roomity.com.
If there is anything that I've posted here that is inaccurate, please
point to the specifics. Thanks.
--- below is some archived links I saved ---
A few days ago I received a personalized advertisement for roomity.com
(sample included at end) in response to a posting I made at
opensolaris.org. The advertisement was not in any way related to the
subject of my post.
There's three other reports out on the net which, other than
personalization, are identical to mine:
http://nion.modprobe.de/blog/archives/367-Human-spam.html
http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-September/028165.html
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.vpopmail/16066
And there's other reports that are substantively the same content as the
advertisement I received:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gamin-list/2005-August/msg00102.html
On top of that there are at least 3 other reports that report
roomity.com as spammers but don't include samples:
http://www.nagiosexchange.org/nagios-users.34.0.html?&tx_maillisttofaq_pi1[mode]=1&tx_maillisttofaq_pi1[sword]=roomity.com&tx_maillisttofaq_pi1[an swered_only]=0&tx_maillisttofaq_pi1[showUid]=10351
http://agavi.org/irclogs/%23agavi.2005-08-31.log.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta at thebat dot dutaint dot com/msg72099.html
Reading the complaints out there it seems that their MO is to subscribe
their list collector address to multiple mailing lists, repackage the
content on their site and then send ads to list posters inviting them to
use roomity.com to read the list.
Spam sample:
Return-Path: <coasteraddict at roomity dot com>
Received: from mail.roomity.com (mail.roomity.com [66.220.6.229])
by tcp.com (8.13.3+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j89EFS57016663
for <jlick at drivel dot com>; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 07:15:29 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [192.168.0.14] (adsl-68-94-31-43.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net
[68.94.31.43])
by mail.roomity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F35A799E
for <jlick at drivel dot com>; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 07:15:34 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <432198FA dot 2040907 at roomity dot com>
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 09:15:22 -0500
From: Joni Ellsworth <coasteraddict at roomity dot com>
Organization: Roomity.com
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317)
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: jlick at drivel dot com
Subject: Osol Discussion Mailing List
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Virus-Status: No
X-Virus-Checker-Version: clamassassin 1.2.2 with clamdscan / ClamAV
0.86.2/1034/Thu Aug 18 13:07:58 2005
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on neko.tcp.com
X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.6 required=4.7
tests=BAYES_20,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4
X-Spam-Report: * -9.0 BAYES_20 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 5
to 20%
* [score: 0.0613]
* 0.4 RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY RBL: NJABL: sender is an open proxy
* [68.94.31.43 listed in combined.njabl.org]
James,
I was reading your posts on the osol-discuss mailing group yesterday,
and think our site may be of interest to you. It will put all the posts
from the group on one page, and keep your inbox cleaner.
There is nothing to buy, and there is a video demo, if you like. If you
do get a chance to check it out, let me know what you think of it - I
would love to hear your thoughts.
The site addy is http://www.roomity.com.
Thanks!
Joni Ellsworth
Community Operator
EMail: coasteraddict at roomity dot com
URL: http://www.roomity.com
Office: 214-827-3319
To opt out of this email, please contact coasteraddict at roomity dot com
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James Lick -- 黎建溥 -- jlick at jameslick dot com -- http://jameslick.com/
_______________________________________________
website-discuss mailing list
website-discuss at opensolaris dot org
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Derek Cicero
derek.cicero@sun.com
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Re: Re: spammers roomity.com hitting opensolaris
list users
Posted:
Sep 26, 2005 3:27 PM
in response to: netsql
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Vic Cekvenich wrote:
> Derek Cicero,
>
> James Lick lies, it's not true. Should he not have to prove? He.net
> mail admins ignore him.
In reviewing the situation, it appears that you joined the list for the
sole purpose of harvesting sales contacts, as there have been no posts
from your email address, or those at the roomity domain, regarding the
development and/or use of OpenSolaris. If you wish to participate in the
community, you are more than welcome to do so, but you must participate
under the proper Terms Of Use.
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/tou/
Derek
>
> I am CEO of roomity. We are a Sun partners, providing a Sun Java
> commericial application that mirrors mail list, just like other
> companies do (Gmane, Mail-Arcvhive, etc) and emable users to search
> etc. Differences is that we are writen in Java.
>
> James, and very few othrs, did receive a Personal Email by a live
> person based on his posting of the list, just like get of the list
> postings all the time. He is cauasing me comercail damange... but he
> is in China where most spam origrinates and one can just accuse; and
> not much I can do about it.
>
> In any case, he should probe what he is saying, else.. you realy
> should not discriminate who mirrors your mail list.
>
> click http://solaris.roomity.com to see it :-)
>
>
> .V
>
> cell 917 825 3035
> _______________________________________________
> website-discuss mailing list
> website-discuss at opensolaris dot org
>
--
Derek Cicero
Program Manager
Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division
_______________________________________________
website-discuss mailing list
website-discuss at opensolaris dot org
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