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Project Indiana milestone reached!
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Oct 31, 2007 8:32 PM
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I'm very pleased to announce that the first milestone of Project Indiana is now
available - called OpenSolaris Developer Preview.
It's available for download at
http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
This is an x86-based LiveCD install image, containing some new and emerging
OpenSolaris technologies. This may result in instabilities that lead to system
panics or data corruption.
Among the features contained in this release are
o Single CD download, with LiveCD 'try before you install' capabilities
o Caiman installer, with significantly improved installation experience
o ZFS as the default filesystem
o Image packaging system, with capabilities to pull packages from
network repositories
o GNU utilities in the default $PATH
o bash as the default shell
o GNOME 2.20 desktop environment
For more details about the system requirements along with some basic user
documentation, see -
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/getit/
and the release notes
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/rn/
This milestone preview shows the results of many months of engineering work
through the collaboration of several projects on opensolaris.org. I would like
to thank to those people who have been involved, and offer my congratulations
for reaching this successful milestone.
Report Bugs
===========
We are very interested in hearing feedback about your experiences with this
release. In particular, if you have issues installing on your hardware we would
love to know.
If you would like to provide feedback, see our bug reporting page for details on
how to do that -
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/reporting_bugs/
About Project Indiana
=====================
Project Indiana is working towards creating a binary distribution of an
operating system built out of the OpenSolaris source code. The distribution is a
point of integration for several current projects on OpenSolaris.org, including
those to make the installation experience easier, to modernize the look and feel
of OpenSolaris on the desktop, and to introduce a network-based package
management system into Solaris.
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/
Rock on!
Glynn
On behalf of Project Indiana Team
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Re: Project Indiana milestone reached!
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Oct 31, 2007 8:49 PM
in response to: gman
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Glynn Foster wrote:
> I'm very pleased to announce that the first milestone of Project Indiana is now
> available - called OpenSolaris Developer Preview.
>
> It's available for download at
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> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
>
This day marks a shift in time.
Congrats :-)
> This is an x86-based LiveCD install image, containing some new and emerging
> OpenSolaris technologies. This may result in instabilities that lead to system
> panics or data corruption.
>
> Among the features contained in this release are
>
> o Single CD download, with LiveCD 'try before you install' capabilities
>
> o Caiman installer, with significantly improved installation experience
>
> o ZFS as the default filesystem
>
> o Image packaging system, with capabilities to pull packages from
> network repositories
>
> o GNU utilities in the default $PATH
>
> o bash as the default shell
>
> o GNOME 2.20 desktop environment
>
> For more details about the system requirements along with some basic user
> documentation, see -
>
> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/getit/
>
> and the release notes
>
> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/rn/
>
> This milestone preview shows the results of many months of engineering work
> through the collaboration of several projects on opensolaris.org. I would like
> to thank to those people who have been involved, and offer my congratulations
> for reaching this successful milestone.
>
> Report Bugs
> ===========
> We are very interested in hearing feedback about your experiences with this
> release. In particular, if you have issues installing on your hardware we would
> love to know.
>
> If you would like to provide feedback, see our bug reporting page for details on
> how to do that -
>
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/reporting_bugs/
>
>
> About Project Indiana
> =====================
> Project Indiana is working towards creating a binary distribution of an
> operating system built out of the OpenSolaris source code. The distribution is a
> point of integration for several current projects on OpenSolaris.org, including
> those to make the installation experience easier, to modernize the look and feel
> of OpenSolaris on the desktop, and to introduce a network-based package
> management system into Solaris.
>
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/
>
>
> Rock on!
>
> Glynn
> On behalf of Project Indiana Team
> _______________________________________________
> indiana-discuss mailing list
> indiana-discuss at opensolaris dot org
> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss
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Re: [osol-discuss] Project Indiana milestone
reached!
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Oct 31, 2007 9:18 PM
in response to: gman
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On 11/1/07, Glynn Foster <Glynn dot Foster at sun dot com> wrote:
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> I'm very pleased to announce that the first milestone of Project Indiana is now
> available - called OpenSolaris Developer Preview.
>
> It's available for download at
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> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
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> This is an x86-based LiveCD install image, containing some new and emerging
> OpenSolaris technologies. This may result in instabilities that lead to system
> panics or data corruption.
>
Congratulations guys!!
nacho
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Re: [osol-discuss] Project Indiana milestone
reached!
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Oct 31, 2007 10:05 PM
in response to: gman
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Glynn Foster wrote:
>
> I'm very pleased to announce that the first milestone of Project Indiana is now
> available - called OpenSolaris Developer Preview.
>
> It's available for download at
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> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
[snip]
Congrats to all! :-)
I only did a quick look:
- Many locales are missing. IMO it may be nice to ship (limited to one
per country to restrict disk space requirements):
"C"
"en_US.UTF-8" (as default, following the default for SuSE Linux and
RedHat)
"ja_JP.UTF-8" (for japan)
"zh_CN.UTF-8" (for china)
etc.
- The manual page subsystem should be adjusted to be a bit more
enduser-friendly (I have a rewrite of /usr/bin/man queued, please ask
either me or Michelle Olson)
- The default interactive shell environment needs some adjustments
(better defaults for prompt, PAGER, MANPATH etc.)
- Please allow localised manual pages to be installed on demand (e.g.
Solaris comes with a huge list of japanese and chinese manual pages)
- It may be nice to think about shipping the VMware tools by default or
as an installable package (currently the system clock has problems which
causes other issues over time)
- Where are the "traditional" X11 tools like "xclock" or "xeyes" ? ;-(
- The network autodetection assumes that the local network has DHCP
(which is not always available)
- If network is available and the system is not running VMware tools
"xntpd" should be enabled and sync the time against an external source
(e.g. some kind of "time autodetection" ... :-) )
- Why was the automounter for /home/ removed ? I liked my traditional
"/home/${LOGNAME}" directory...
.... that's all what I found in a 5min look...
----
Bye,
Roland
P.S.: Setting Reply-To: to caiman-discuss at opensolaris dot org to handle the
technical stuff listed above there...
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Re: [osol-discuss] Project Indiana
milestone reached!
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Nov 1, 2007 11:19 AM
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Roland Mainz wrote:
> Glynn Foster wrote:
>
>> I'm very pleased to announce that the first milestone of Project Indiana is now
>> available - called OpenSolaris Developer Preview.
>>
>> It's available for download at
>>
>> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
>>
> [snip]
>
> Congrats to all! :-)
>
> I only did a quick look:
> - Many locales are missing. IMO it may be nice to ship (limited to one
> per country to restrict disk space requirements):
> "C"
> "en_US.UTF-8" (as default, following the default for SuSE Linux and
> RedHat)
> "ja_JP.UTF-8" (for japan)
> "zh_CN.UTF-8" (for china)
> etc.
>
We chose this simply for schedule. For March we will definitely include
more locales. I am not sure how many, it will depend on the space
available.
> - The manual page subsystem should be adjusted to be a bit more
> enduser-friendly (I have a rewrite of /usr/bin/man queued, please ask
> either me or Michelle Olson)
>
>
I will very definitely take a look at that.
> - The default interactive shell environment needs some adjustments
> (better defaults for prompt, PAGER, MANPATH etc.)
>
> - Please allow localised manual pages to be installed on demand (e.g.
> Solaris comes with a huge list of japanese and chinese manual pages)
>
> - It may be nice to think about shipping the VMware tools by default or
> as an installable package (currently the system clock has problems which
> causes other issues over time)
>
>
> - Where are the "traditional" X11 tools like "xclock" or "xeyes" ? ;-(
>
> - The network autodetection assumes that the local network has DHCP
> (which is not always available)
>
This is an NWAM issue. I am aware that they are looking at a far more
complete solution than what we have. We aimed for a 90% (hopefully ;-)
solution. I believe DHCP/DNS falls into that category.
> - If network is available and the system is not running VMware tools
> "xntpd" should be enabled and sync the time against an external source
> (e.g. some kind of "time autodetection" ... :-) )
>
Good point. For now could you log a bug so that we can track this
against the distribution.
> - Why was the automounter for /home/ removed ? I liked my traditional
> "/home/${LOGNAME}" directory...
>
Could you please file a bug (bugzilla). I believe this was missed out.
Thanks for your review.
-Sanjay
>
> .... that's all what I found in a 5min look...
>
> ----
>
> Bye,
> Roland
>
> P.S.: Setting Reply-To: to caiman-discuss at opensolaris dot org to handle the
> technical stuff listed above there...
>
>
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Re: [caiman-discuss] [osol-discuss] Project
Indiana milestone reached!
Posted:
Nov 1, 2007 4:22 PM
in response to: gisburn
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Hey,
Roland Mainz wrote:
> I only did a quick look:
> - Many locales are missing. IMO it may be nice to ship (limited to one
> per country to restrict disk space requirements):
> "C"
> "en_US.UTF-8" (as default, following the default for SuSE Linux and
> RedHat)
> "ja_JP.UTF-8" (for japan)
> "zh_CN.UTF-8" (for china)
> etc.
Absolutely - this was only intended to be a preview, and no focus on
l10n/i18n/a11y has been done. Very much noted, and we should have put that as
part of the release notes - sorry.
> - The manual page subsystem should be adjusted to be a bit more
> enduser-friendly (I have a rewrite of /usr/bin/man queued, please ask
> either me or Michelle Olson)
Do you have a pointer to anything I can read that explains this in more detail?
> - The default interactive shell environment needs some adjustments
> (better defaults for prompt, PAGER, MANPATH etc.)
Can you bugzilla this please?
> - Please allow localised manual pages to be installed on demand (e.g.
> Solaris comes with a huge list of japanese and chinese manual pages)
>
> - It may be nice to think about shipping the VMware tools by default or
> as an installable package (currently the system clock has problems which
> causes other issues over time)
>
> - Where are the "traditional" X11 tools like "xclock" or "xeyes" ? ;-(
I think the issues were pulling together some of the excellent FOX bits that
Martin, Moinak and Alan were working on - but we didn't pull together all of
them in time (notice xterm?). Would be good to bugzilla this too please.
> - The network autodetection assumes that the local network has DHCP
> (which is not always available)
Bugzilla.
> - If network is available and the system is not running VMware tools
> "xntpd" should be enabled and sync the time against an external source
> (e.g. some kind of "time autodetection" ... :-) )
Bugzilla.
> - Why was the automounter for /home/ removed ? I liked my traditional
> "/home/${LOGNAME}" directory...
Yeah, I agree - I'd like to have see this too. Please bugzilla! :)
> .... that's all what I found in a 5min look...
Very much appreciate this, thanks Roland!
Glynn
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Re: Project Indiana milestone reached!
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Nov 1, 2007 1:29 AM
in response to: gman
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So, having GNU utilities as default is a feature? O well, I have no
right to contest that. But confusion is my worst enemy. What is the
identity of opensolaris now? Is it a true Unix or it isn't unix anymore
because of the "Gnu's Not Unix" user land? On 31/10/2007, Glynn Foster <
Glynn dot Foster at sun dot com> wrote:
I'm very pleased to announce that the first milestone of Project Indiana is now
available - called OpenSolaris Developer Preview.
It's available for download at
http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
This is an x86-based LiveCD install image, containing some new and emerging
OpenSolaris technologies. This may result in instabilities that lead to system
panics or data corruption.
Among the features contained in this release are
o Single CD download, with LiveCD 'try before you install' capabilities
o Caiman installer, with significantly improved installation experience
o ZFS as the default filesystem
o Image packaging system, with capabilities to pull packages from
network repositories
o GNU utilities in the default $PATH
o bash as the default shell
o GNOME 2.20 desktop environment
For more details about the system requirements along with some basic user
documentation, see -
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/getit/
and the release notes
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/rn/
This milestone preview shows the results of many months of engineering work
through the collaboration of several projects on
opensolaris.org. I would like
to thank to those people who have been involved, and offer my congratulations
for reaching this successful milestone.
Report Bugs
===========
We are very interested in hearing feedback about your experiences with this
release. In particular, if you have issues installing on your hardware we would
love to know.
If you would like to provide feedback, see our bug reporting page for details on
how to do that -
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/reporting_bugs/
About Project Indiana
=====================
Project Indiana is working towards creating a binary distribution of an
operating system built out of the OpenSolaris source code. The distribution is a
point of integration for several current projects on OpenSolaris.org, including
those to make the installation experience easier, to modernize the look and feel
of OpenSolaris on the desktop, and to introduce a network-based package
management system into Solaris.
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/
Rock on!
Glynn
On behalf of Project Indiana Team
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Re: [osol-discuss] Project Indiana milestone
reached!
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Nov 1, 2007 2:12 AM
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cool.
cong.
Glynn Foster wrote:
> I'm very pleased to announce that the first milestone of Project Indiana is now
> available - called OpenSolaris Developer Preview.
>
> It's available for download at
>
> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
>
> This is an x86-based LiveCD install image, containing some new and emerging
> OpenSolaris technologies. This may result in instabilities that lead to system
> panics or data corruption.
>
> Among the features contained in this release are
>
> o Single CD download, with LiveCD 'try before you install' capabilities
>
> o Caiman installer, with significantly improved installation experience
>
> o ZFS as the default filesystem
>
> o Image packaging system, with capabilities to pull packages from
> network repositories
>
> o GNU utilities in the default $PATH
>
> o bash as the default shell
>
> o GNOME 2.20 desktop environment
>
> For more details about the system requirements along with some basic user
> documentation, see -
>
> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/getit/
>
> and the release notes
>
> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/rn/
>
> This milestone preview shows the results of many months of engineering work
> through the collaboration of several projects on opensolaris.org. I would like
> to thank to those people who have been involved, and offer my congratulations
> for reaching this successful milestone.
>
> Report Bugs
> ===========
> We are very interested in hearing feedback about your experiences with this
> release. In particular, if you have issues installing on your hardware we would
> love to know.
>
> If you would like to provide feedback, see our bug reporting page for details on
> how to do that -
>
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/reporting_bugs/
>
>
> About Project Indiana
> =====================
> Project Indiana is working towards creating a binary distribution of an
> operating system built out of the OpenSolaris source code. The distribution is a
> point of integration for several current projects on OpenSolaris.org, including
> those to make the installation experience easier, to modernize the look and feel
> of OpenSolaris on the desktop, and to introduce a network-based package
> management system into Solaris.
>
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/
>
>
> Rock on!
>
> Glynn
> On behalf of Project Indiana Team
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-discuss mailing list
> opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris dot org
>
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Re: Project Indiana milestone reached!
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Nov 1, 2007 3:02 AM
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congratulations to indiana milestone I!!!
There's still a lot of work to do and discussion necessary but I think it's a step into the right direction. ZFS on / rules ;-) I hope to see that on sparc too...
For those folks who are new to indiana and interested in the install process: There's a step by step howto for installing it on vmware workstation in my wiki: http://otmanix.de/wiki/index.php5?title=OtmanixWiki:Portal
Thanks to the OpenSolaris team.
I hope you will find a solution for this branding topic in the final version of indiana. Nobody should forget the important work which had been done by the guys who developed belenix, nexenta, schillix and martux.
P.S.
Is there a reason to chose bash over ksh93 as default shell? Did I miss sth?
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Re: Project Indiana milestone reached!
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Nov 1, 2007 4:19 AM
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Great news! We've installed this preview on an opteron-based machine already and are trying to play with package management facility.
And speaking of packages -- is there any way to add packages to pkg.opensolaris.org? There are lots of stuff already available in package forms like Java, NetBeans, Sun Studio so I'm wondering how hard or easy it is to make such package public?
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Re: Project Indiana milestone reached!
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Nov 1, 2007 5:51 AM
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Fantastic, we are installing it now.
I too would like to know how to "add packages" or repositories. Something along the lines of what Ubuntu does with their repository hierarchy would be nice.
yeah, I know, give us time ...
Great job.
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Re: Project Indiana milestone reached!
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Nov 1, 2007 9:57 AM
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* Maxim <perezk at mail dot ru> [2007-11-01 11:21]:
> Great news! We've installed this preview on an opteron-based machine
> already and are trying to play with package management facility.
>
> And speaking of packages -- is there any way to add packages to
> pkg.opensolaris.org? There are lots of stuff already available in
> package forms like Java, NetBeans, Sun Studio so I'm wondering how
> hard or easy it is to make such package public?
We need to implement a little bit more in image packaging to make it
possible to have multiple publisher accounts. Before that, we'll
probably add each of the packages you mention, although David C and I
are trying to keep the components on pkg.opensolaris.org legally
unencumbered for redistribution. (Allowing mirrors, etc.)
- Stephen
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Re: Project Indiana milestone reached!
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Nov 1, 2007 4:58 AM
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Congratulations!!!! The milestone was met as promised! I'd say thanks to all the Sun personnel around the world that was working all those hours to make it happen.
Now, time to make this one of the hottest reference 'mini' distros...
Add my name to the QA test engineering club....
~ Ken Mays
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Re: Project Indiana milestone reached!
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Nov 1, 2007 5:34 AM
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> Congratulations!!!! The milestone was met as promised! I'd say thanks to all
> the Sun personnel around the world that was working all those hours to make
> it happen.
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> Now, time to make this one of the hottest reference 'mini' distros...
>
> Add my name to the QA test engineering club....
Hello Ken !
me too
At the moment I'm sort of stuck at the login prompt .. see bottom of
this page http://www.blastwave.org/articles/BLS-0061/index.html
Dennis
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Re: [osol-discuss] Project Indiana milestone
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Nov 1, 2007 6:00 AM
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> o Image packaging system, with capabilities to pull packages from
> network repositories
What's the status of that system? Is it up and running?
Also, where lies the practical difference between the 660megs of this
release and the 3gig of the SXCE release? Mostly, the question's just,
can I compile various projects with the default install?
-mg
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