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Project Indiana milestone reached!
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Oct 31, 2007 8:32 PM
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I'm very pleased to announce that the first milestone of Project Indiana is now
available - called OpenSolaris Developer Preview.
It's available for download at
http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
This is an x86-based LiveCD install image, containing some new and emerging
OpenSolaris technologies. This may result in instabilities that lead to system
panics or data corruption.
Among the features contained in this release are
o Single CD download, with LiveCD 'try before you install' capabilities
o Caiman installer, with significantly improved installation experience
o ZFS as the default filesystem
o Image packaging system, with capabilities to pull packages from
network repositories
o GNU utilities in the default $PATH
o bash as the default shell
o GNOME 2.20 desktop environment
For more details about the system requirements along with some basic user
documentation, see -
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/getit/
and the release notes
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/rn/
This milestone preview shows the results of many months of engineering work
through the collaboration of several projects on opensolaris.org. I would like
to thank to those people who have been involved, and offer my congratulations
for reaching this successful milestone.
Report Bugs
===========
We are very interested in hearing feedback about your experiences with this
release. In particular, if you have issues installing on your hardware we would
love to know.
If you would like to provide feedback, see our bug reporting page for details on
how to do that -
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/reporting_bugs/
About Project Indiana
=====================
Project Indiana is working towards creating a binary distribution of an
operating system built out of the OpenSolaris source code. The distribution is a
point of integration for several current projects on OpenSolaris.org, including
those to make the installation experience easier, to modernize the look and feel
of OpenSolaris on the desktop, and to introduce a network-based package
management system into Solaris.
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/
Rock on!
Glynn
On behalf of Project Indiana Team
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Re: [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana milestone
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Oct 31, 2007 8:43 PM
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:)
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Re: [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana milestone
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Oct 31, 2007 8:47 PM
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Congrats to all! What a triumph.
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Re: [indiana-discuss] Project Indiana milestone
reached!
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Oct 31, 2007 8:49 PM
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Glynn Foster wrote:
> I'm very pleased to announce that the first milestone of Project Indiana is now
> available - called OpenSolaris Developer Preview.
>
> It's available for download at
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> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
>
This day marks a shift in time.
Congrats :-)
> This is an x86-based LiveCD install image, containing some new and emerging
> OpenSolaris technologies. This may result in instabilities that lead to system
> panics or data corruption.
>
> Among the features contained in this release are
>
> o Single CD download, with LiveCD 'try before you install' capabilities
>
> o Caiman installer, with significantly improved installation experience
>
> o ZFS as the default filesystem
>
> o Image packaging system, with capabilities to pull packages from
> network repositories
>
> o GNU utilities in the default $PATH
>
> o bash as the default shell
>
> o GNOME 2.20 desktop environment
>
> For more details about the system requirements along with some basic user
> documentation, see -
>
> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/getit/
>
> and the release notes
>
> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/rn/
>
> This milestone preview shows the results of many months of engineering work
> through the collaboration of several projects on opensolaris.org. I would like
> to thank to those people who have been involved, and offer my congratulations
> for reaching this successful milestone.
>
> Report Bugs
> ===========
> We are very interested in hearing feedback about your experiences with this
> release. In particular, if you have issues installing on your hardware we would
> love to know.
>
> If you would like to provide feedback, see our bug reporting page for details on
> how to do that -
>
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/reporting_bugs/
>
>
> About Project Indiana
> =====================
> Project Indiana is working towards creating a binary distribution of an
> operating system built out of the OpenSolaris source code. The distribution is a
> point of integration for several current projects on OpenSolaris.org, including
> those to make the installation experience easier, to modernize the look and feel
> of OpenSolaris on the desktop, and to introduce a network-based package
> management system into Solaris.
>
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/
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>
> Rock on!
>
> Glynn
> On behalf of Project Indiana Team
> _______________________________________________
> indiana-discuss mailing list
> indiana-discuss at opensolaris dot org
> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss
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>
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Re: Project Indiana milestone reached!
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Oct 31, 2007 8:51 PM
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"Good work" to all those who contributed to making this release happen (and happen on time!). I'm told this was no small feat!!! :)
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Re: Project Indiana milestone reached!
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Oct 31, 2007 9:18 PM
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On 11/1/07, Glynn Foster <Glynn dot Foster at sun dot com> wrote:
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> I'm very pleased to announce that the first milestone of Project Indiana is now
> available - called OpenSolaris Developer Preview.
>
> It's available for download at
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> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
>
> This is an x86-based LiveCD install image, containing some new and emerging
> OpenSolaris technologies. This may result in instabilities that lead to system
> panics or data corruption.
>
Congratulations guys!!
nacho
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Re: Project Indiana milestone reached!
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Oct 31, 2007 10:05 PM
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Glynn Foster wrote:
>
> I'm very pleased to announce that the first milestone of Project Indiana is now
> available - called OpenSolaris Developer Preview.
>
> It's available for download at
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> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
[snip]
Congrats to all! :-)
I only did a quick look:
- Many locales are missing. IMO it may be nice to ship (limited to one
per country to restrict disk space requirements):
"C"
"en_US.UTF-8" (as default, following the default for SuSE Linux and
RedHat)
"ja_JP.UTF-8" (for japan)
"zh_CN.UTF-8" (for china)
etc.
- The manual page subsystem should be adjusted to be a bit more
enduser-friendly (I have a rewrite of /usr/bin/man queued, please ask
either me or Michelle Olson)
- The default interactive shell environment needs some adjustments
(better defaults for prompt, PAGER, MANPATH etc.)
- Please allow localised manual pages to be installed on demand (e.g.
Solaris comes with a huge list of japanese and chinese manual pages)
- It may be nice to think about shipping the VMware tools by default or
as an installable package (currently the system clock has problems which
causes other issues over time)
- Where are the "traditional" X11 tools like "xclock" or "xeyes" ? ;-(
- The network autodetection assumes that the local network has DHCP
(which is not always available)
- If network is available and the system is not running VMware tools
"xntpd" should be enabled and sync the time against an external source
(e.g. some kind of "time autodetection" ... :-) )
- Why was the automounter for /home/ removed ? I liked my traditional
"/home/${LOGNAME}" directory...
.... that's all what I found in a 5min look...
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Bye,
Roland
P.S.: Setting Reply-To: to caiman-discuss at opensolaris dot org to handle the
technical stuff listed above there...
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Re: [indiana-discuss] Project Indiana
milestone reached!
Posted:
Nov 1, 2007 11:19 AM
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Roland Mainz wrote:
> Glynn Foster wrote:
>
>> I'm very pleased to announce that the first milestone of Project Indiana is now
>> available - called OpenSolaris Developer Preview.
>>
>> It's available for download at
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>> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
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> [snip]
>
> Congrats to all! :-)
>
> I only did a quick look:
> - Many locales are missing. IMO it may be nice to ship (limited to one
> per country to restrict disk space requirements):
> "C"
> "en_US.UTF-8" (as default, following the default for SuSE Linux and
> RedHat)
> "ja_JP.UTF-8" (for japan)
> "zh_CN.UTF-8" (for china)
> etc.
>
We chose this simply for schedule. For March we will definitely include
more locales. I am not sure how many, it will depend on the space
available.
> - The manual page subsystem should be adjusted to be a bit more
> enduser-friendly (I have a rewrite of /usr/bin/man queued, please ask
> either me or Michelle Olson)
>
>
I will very definitely take a look at that.
> - The default interactive shell environment needs some adjustments
> (better defaults for prompt, PAGER, MANPATH etc.)
>
> - Please allow localised manual pages to be installed on demand (e.g.
> Solaris comes with a huge list of japanese and chinese manual pages)
>
> - It may be nice to think about shipping the VMware tools by default or
> as an installable package (currently the system clock has problems which
> causes other issues over time)
>
>
> - Where are the "traditional" X11 tools like "xclock" or "xeyes" ? ;-(
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> - The network autodetection assumes that the local network has DHCP
> (which is not always available)
>
This is an NWAM issue. I am aware that they are looking at a far more
complete solution than what we have. We aimed for a 90% (hopefully ;-)
solution. I believe DHCP/DNS falls into that category.
> - If network is available and the system is not running VMware tools
> "xntpd" should be enabled and sync the time against an external source
> (e.g. some kind of "time autodetection" ... :-) )
>
Good point. For now could you log a bug so that we can track this
against the distribution.
> - Why was the automounter for /home/ removed ? I liked my traditional
> "/home/${LOGNAME}" directory...
>
Could you please file a bug (bugzilla). I believe this was missed out.
Thanks for your review.
-Sanjay
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> .... that's all what I found in a 5min look...
>
> ----
>
> Bye,
> Roland
>
> P.S.: Setting Reply-To: to caiman-discuss at opensolaris dot org to handle the
> technical stuff listed above there...
>
>
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Re: [caiman-discuss] Project Indiana
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Posted:
Nov 1, 2007 4:22 PM
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Hey,
Roland Mainz wrote:
> I only did a quick look:
> - Many locales are missing. IMO it may be nice to ship (limited to one
> per country to restrict disk space requirements):
> "C"
> "en_US.UTF-8" (as default, following the default for SuSE Linux and
> RedHat)
> "ja_JP.UTF-8" (for japan)
> "zh_CN.UTF-8" (for china)
> etc.
Absolutely - this was only intended to be a preview, and no focus on
l10n/i18n/a11y has been done. Very much noted, and we should have put that as
part of the release notes - sorry.
> - The manual page subsystem should be adjusted to be a bit more
> enduser-friendly (I have a rewrite of /usr/bin/man queued, please ask
> either me or Michelle Olson)
Do you have a pointer to anything I can read that explains this in more detail?
> - The default interactive shell environment needs some adjustments
> (better defaults for prompt, PAGER, MANPATH etc.)
Can you bugzilla this please?
> - Please allow localised manual pages to be installed on demand (e.g.
> Solaris comes with a huge list of japanese and chinese manual pages)
>
> - It may be nice to think about shipping the VMware tools by default or
> as an installable package (currently the system clock has problems which
> causes other issues over time)
>
> - Where are the "traditional" X11 tools like "xclock" or "xeyes" ? ;-(
I think the issues were pulling together some of the excellent FOX bits that
Martin, Moinak and Alan were working on - but we didn't pull together all of
them in time (notice xterm?). Would be good to bugzilla this too please.
> - The network autodetection assumes that the local network has DHCP
> (which is not always available)
Bugzilla.
> - If network is available and the system is not running VMware tools
> "xntpd" should be enabled and sync the time against an external source
> (e.g. some kind of "time autodetection" ... :-) )
Bugzilla.
> - Why was the automounter for /home/ removed ? I liked my traditional
> "/home/${LOGNAME}" directory...
Yeah, I agree - I'd like to have see this too. Please bugzilla! :)
> .... that's all what I found in a 5min look...
Very much appreciate this, thanks Roland!
Glynn
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Re: Project Indiana milestone reached!
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Nov 1, 2007 2:12 AM
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cool.
cong.
Glynn Foster wrote:
> I'm very pleased to announce that the first milestone of Project Indiana is now
> available - called OpenSolaris Developer Preview.
>
> It's available for download at
>
> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
>
> This is an x86-based LiveCD install image, containing some new and emerging
> OpenSolaris technologies. This may result in instabilities that lead to system
> panics or data corruption.
>
> Among the features contained in this release are
>
> o Single CD download, with LiveCD 'try before you install' capabilities
>
> o Caiman installer, with significantly improved installation experience
>
> o ZFS as the default filesystem
>
> o Image packaging system, with capabilities to pull packages from
> network repositories
>
> o GNU utilities in the default $PATH
>
> o bash as the default shell
>
> o GNOME 2.20 desktop environment
>
> For more details about the system requirements along with some basic user
> documentation, see -
>
> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/getit/
>
> and the release notes
>
> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/rn/
>
> This milestone preview shows the results of many months of engineering work
> through the collaboration of several projects on opensolaris.org. I would like
> to thank to those people who have been involved, and offer my congratulations
> for reaching this successful milestone.
>
> Report Bugs
> ===========
> We are very interested in hearing feedback about your experiences with this
> release. In particular, if you have issues installing on your hardware we would
> love to know.
>
> If you would like to provide feedback, see our bug reporting page for details on
> how to do that -
>
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/reporting_bugs/
>
>
> About Project Indiana
> =====================
> Project Indiana is working towards creating a binary distribution of an
> operating system built out of the OpenSolaris source code. The distribution is a
> point of integration for several current projects on OpenSolaris.org, including
> those to make the installation experience easier, to modernize the look and feel
> of OpenSolaris on the desktop, and to introduce a network-based package
> management system into Solaris.
>
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/
>
>
> Rock on!
>
> Glynn
> On behalf of Project Indiana Team
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-discuss mailing list
> opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris dot org
>
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Re: Project Indiana milestone reached!
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Nov 1, 2007 5:28 AM
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On 01/11/2007, Glynn Foster <Glynn dot Foster at sun dot com> wrote:
> o ZFS as the default filesystem
Is that as in 'ZFS root'?
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Re: Project Indiana milestone reached!
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Nov 1, 2007 5:30 AM
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On 11/1/07, **** Davies <rasputnik at gmail dot com> wrote:
> On 01/11/2007, Glynn Foster <Glynn dot Foster at sun dot com> wrote:
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> > o ZFS as the default filesystem
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> Is that as in 'ZFS root'?
Yup.
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Re: Project Indiana milestone reached!
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> o Image packaging system, with capabilities to pull packages from
> network repositories
What's the status of that system? Is it up and running?
Also, where lies the practical difference between the 660megs of this
release and the 3gig of the SXCE release? Mostly, the question's just,
can I compile various projects with the default install?
-mg
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Re: [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana milestone
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Nov 1, 2007 6:52 AM
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On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 04:32:34PM +1300, Glynn Foster wrote:
> I'm very pleased to announce that the first milestone of Project Indiana is now
> available - called OpenSolaris Developer Preview.
>
> It's available for download at
>
> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
Is this release freely redistributable? It seems not, right?
thanks
john
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Re: [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana milestone
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Nov 1, 2007 10:42 AM
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* John Levon <john dot levon at sun dot com> [2007-11-01 13:52]:
> On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 04:32:34PM +1300, Glynn Foster wrote:
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> > I'm very pleased to announce that the first milestone of Project Indiana is now
> > available - called OpenSolaris Developer Preview.
> >
> > It's available for download at
> >
> > http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
>
> Is this release freely redistributable? It seems not, right?
It is.
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Re: [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana milestone
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On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 10:42:51AM -0700, Stephen Hahn wrote:
> > > http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
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> > Is this release freely redistributable? It seems not, right?
>
> It is.
Yay - but the Binary License doesn't make it sound that way. I'm presuming
that's something that will get fixed later.
regards
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Re: [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana milestone
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* John Levon <john dot levon at sun dot com> [2007-11-01 20:40]:
> On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 10:42:51AM -0700, Stephen Hahn wrote:
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> > > > http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
> > >
> > > Is this release freely redistributable? It seems not, right?
> >
> > It is.
>
> Yay - but the Binary License doesn't make it sound that way. I'm presuming
> that's something that will get fixed later.
2. (b) is supposed to allow redistribution, just as it did for those
any distribution that used any of the closed bins from ON or other
consolidations.
But we can collect concerns and try another round of license-writing,
if it's a sticking point.
- Stephen
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Re: [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana milestone
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On Nov 1, 2007, at 20:43, John Levon wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 10:42:51AM -0700, Stephen Hahn wrote:
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>>>> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview.iso
>>>
>>> Is this release freely redistributable? It seems not, right?
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>> It is.
>
> Yay - but the Binary License doesn't make it sound that way. I'm
> presuming
> that's something that will get fixed later.
Working on it right now.
S.
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