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OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available
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Feb 12, 2008 5:54 PM
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I'm pleased to announce that OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 is now available
for your download pleasure -
http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview2.iso
This is an x86-based LiveCD install image, containing some new and emerging
OpenSolaris technologies and should be considered a developer preview only.
Among the spiffy features contained in this release are
o Based on Nevada build 79b
o pkg(1) improvements, including progress reporting, verification
support and incremental catalog update
o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default
user shell)
o Introduction of /usr/has/bin (experimental!), with /usr/bin/vi now
linking to vim by default
o Addition of several new packages on http://pkg.opensolaris.org,
including OpenOffice v2.3.1
o JRE included by default on the LiveCD
o The following set of drivers have been included in the LiveCD
NVIDIA Graphics System Software (nvidia)
ADMtek Ethernet Driver (afe)
AMD8111 Fast Ethernet Driver (amd8111s)
Davicom 9102 Fast Ethernet Driver (dmfe)
Macronix Fast Ethernet Driver (mxfe)
Nvidia ck804 pro / mcp55 pro combo SATA driver (nvsata)
Sun NIU leaf driver (nxge)
Ralink RT2500 802.11b/g Wireless Driver (ralink)
realtek 8180L 802.11b driver (rtw)
USB Keyspan serial driver (usbsksp)
o Many bug fixes! For a complete (unchecked) list, see
http://tinyurl.com/2a4pzw
For more details about the system requirements along with some basic user
documentation, see -
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/getit/
and the release notes
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/rn2/
This preview would not be possible without the hard work of the people who
have contributed to its success, including the Caiman, IPS, Modernization,
Desktop, FOX and project management teams, along with the many people who
have provided feedback on their experiences with the first developer
preview. Thank you all!
Report Bugs
===========
We are very interested in hearing feedback about your experiences with this
release. In particular, if you have issues installing on your hardware we would
love to know.
If you would like to provide feedback, see our bug reporting page for details on
how to do that -
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/reporting_bugs/
About Project Indiana
=====================
Project Indiana is working towards creating a binary distribution of an
operating system built out of the OpenSolaris source code. The distribution is a
point of integration for several current projects on OpenSolaris.org, including
those to make the installation experience easier, to modernize the look and feel
of OpenSolaris on the desktop, and to introduce a network-based package
management system into Solaris.
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/
Glynn
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Re: OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available
Posted:
Feb 12, 2008 6:30 PM
in response to: gman
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>o Introduction of /usr/has/bin (experimental!), with /usr/bin/vi now
> linking to vim by default
It's good to see UNIX humor is alive and well.
I can't wait to try out the new version. Keep up the great work you hoosiers!
Jordan On Feb 12, 2008 5:54 PM, Glynn Foster < Glynn dot Foster at sun dot com> wrote:
I'm pleased to announce that OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 is now available
for your download pleasure -
http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview2.iso
This is an x86-based LiveCD install image, containing some new and emerging
OpenSolaris technologies and should be considered a developer preview only.
Among the spiffy features contained in this release are
o Based on Nevada build 79b
o pkg(1) improvements, including progress reporting, verification
support and incremental catalog update
o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default
user shell)
o Introduction of /usr/has/bin (experimental!), with /usr/bin/vi now
linking to vim by default
o Addition of several new packages on http://pkg.opensolaris.org,
including OpenOffice v2.3.1
o JRE included by default on the LiveCD
o The following set of drivers have been included in the LiveCD
NVIDIA Graphics System Software (nvidia)
ADMtek Ethernet Driver (afe)
AMD8111 Fast Ethernet Driver (amd8111s)
Davicom 9102 Fast Ethernet Driver (dmfe)
Macronix Fast Ethernet Driver (mxfe)
Nvidia ck804 pro / mcp55 pro combo SATA driver (nvsata)
Sun NIU leaf driver (nxge)
Ralink RT2500 802.11b/g Wireless Driver (ralink)
realtek 8180L 802.11b driver (rtw)
USB Keyspan serial driver (usbsksp)
o Many bug fixes! For a complete (unchecked) list, see
http://tinyurl.com/2a4pzw
For more details about the system requirements along with some basic user
documentation, see -
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/getit/
and the release notes
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/rn2/
This preview would not be possible without the hard work of the people who
have contributed to its success, including the Caiman, IPS, Modernization,
Desktop, FOX and project management teams, along with the many people who
have provided feedback on their experiences with the first developer
preview. Thank you all!
Report Bugs
===========
We are very interested in hearing feedback about your experiences with this
release. In particular, if you have issues installing on your hardware we would
love to know.
If you would like to provide feedback, see our bug reporting page for details on
how to do that -
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/reporting_bugs/
About Project Indiana
=====================
Project Indiana is working towards creating a binary distribution of an
operating system built out of the OpenSolaris source code. The distribution is a
point of integration for several current projects on OpenSolaris.org, including
those to make the installation experience easier, to modernize the look and feel
of OpenSolaris on the desktop, and to introduce a network-based package
management system into Solaris.
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/
Glynn
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Re: OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available
Posted:
Feb 13, 2008 12:03 AM
in response to: gman
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Thanks for the new release.
We at DF - the Computer Society at Lund University and
Lund Institute of Technology, have updated our mirror,
the new release is available at:
ftp://ftp.df.lth.se/pub/indiana/current/
The mirror is located in Lund, South Sweden.
//Tobias Lundquist
Glynn Foster wrote:
> I'm pleased to announce that OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 is now available
> for your download pleasure -
>
> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-preview2.iso
>
> This is an x86-based LiveCD install image, containing some new and emerging
> OpenSolaris technologies and should be considered a developer preview only.
>
> Among the spiffy features contained in this release are
>
> o Based on Nevada build 79b
>
> o pkg(1) improvements, including progress reporting, verification
> support and incremental catalog update
>
> o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default
> user shell)
>
> o Introduction of /usr/has/bin (experimental!), with /usr/bin/vi now
> linking to vim by default
>
> o Addition of several new packages on http://pkg.opensolaris.org,
> including OpenOffice v2.3.1
>
> o JRE included by default on the LiveCD
>
> o The following set of drivers have been included in the LiveCD
>
> NVIDIA Graphics System Software (nvidia)
> ADMtek Ethernet Driver (afe)
> AMD8111 Fast Ethernet Driver (amd8111s)
> Davicom 9102 Fast Ethernet Driver (dmfe)
> Macronix Fast Ethernet Driver (mxfe)
> Nvidia ck804 pro / mcp55 pro combo SATA driver (nvsata)
> Sun NIU leaf driver (nxge)
> Ralink RT2500 802.11b/g Wireless Driver (ralink)
> realtek 8180L 802.11b driver (rtw)
> USB Keyspan serial driver (usbsksp)
>
> o Many bug fixes! For a complete (unchecked) list, see
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2a4pzw
>
> For more details about the system requirements along with some basic user
> documentation, see -
>
> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/getit/
>
> and the release notes
>
> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/rn2/
>
> This preview would not be possible without the hard work of the people who
> have contributed to its success, including the Caiman, IPS, Modernization,
> Desktop, FOX and project management teams, along with the many people who
> have provided feedback on their experiences with the first developer
> preview. Thank you all!
>
> Report Bugs
> ===========
> We are very interested in hearing feedback about your experiences with this
> release. In particular, if you have issues installing on your hardware we would
> love to know.
>
> If you would like to provide feedback, see our bug reporting page for details on
> how to do that -
>
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/reporting_bugs/
>
>
> About Project Indiana
> =====================
> Project Indiana is working towards creating a binary distribution of an
> operating system built out of the OpenSolaris source code. The distribution is a
> point of integration for several current projects on OpenSolaris.org, including
> those to make the installation experience easier, to modernize the look and feel
> of OpenSolaris on the desktop, and to introduce a network-based package
> management system into Solaris.
>
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/
>
>
> Glynn
> _______________________________________________
> indiana-discuss mailing list
> indiana-discuss at opensolaris dot org
> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss
>
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Re: OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available
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Feb 13, 2008 12:58 AM
in response to: gman
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Thanks! Keep up the good work :)
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Re: OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available
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Feb 13, 2008 4:22 AM
in response to: gman
To: Projects » indiana » discuss
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Hi Glynn,
thanks for the good work.
can you give a short comment on the differences to the Preview2 test release ?
Just wondering what will happen if I will use LiveUpdate :)
@Tobias:
Tack så mycket :)
cheers
baba
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Re: OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available
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Feb 13, 2008 5:08 AM
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What about national locales (russian) in this preview?
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Re: OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available
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Feb 13, 2008 7:18 AM
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Alex wrote:
> What about national locales (russian) in this preview?
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No localization is available for preview-2. We are planning on having
this available for the next release.
-Sanjay
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Re: OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available
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Feb 13, 2008 7:42 AM
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Sanjay Nadkarni wrote:
> Alex wrote:
>> What about national locales (russian) in this preview?
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> No localization is available for preview-2. We are planning on having
> this available for the next release.
Some support for ISO-xxx or UTF-8 locales? Default locale is 'C' and,
without ISO locales is difficult for us with accented chars to use
programs embedded in terminal.
I don't know if there are separate packages to download because I just
installed the beast on VirtualBox on OS X (two betas in one shot) and I'm
without any network interface... Docs claims the virtual interface is an
AMD PCNet. But the ernel don't detect anything. Any hints on this one?
Beside the network problem, it installed flawlessly, btw.
tx,
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Re: OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available
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Feb 13, 2008 8:18 AM
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Giacomo Tufano wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Sanjay Nadkarni wrote:
>> Alex wrote:
>>> What about national locales (russian) in this preview?
>>>
>> No localization is available for preview-2. We are planning on having
>> this available for the next release.
>
> Some support for ISO-xxx or UTF-8 locales? Default locale is 'C' and,
> without ISO locales is difficult for us with accented chars to use
> programs embedded in terminal.
>
> I don't know if there are separate packages to download because I just
> installed the beast on VirtualBox on OS X (two betas in one shot) and I'm
> without any network interface... Docs claims the virtual interface is an
> AMD PCNet. But the ernel don't detect anything. Any hints on this one?
>
> Beside the network problem, it installed flawlessly, btw.
The issue here is one of redistributing the pcnet driver. I'll post
instructions today on how to get this working; Indiana doesn't have a driver
for pcnet in this preview.
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Re: OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available
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Feb 13, 2008 9:53 AM
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> I don't know if there are separate packages to download because I just
> installed the beast on VirtualBox on OS X (two betas in one shot) and I'm
> without any network interface... Docs claims the virtual interface is an
> AMD PCNet. But the ernel don't detect anything. Any hints on this one?
My recommendation for now with VirtualBox is to download Masayuki
Murayama's "ae" driver
http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/ae-2.6.0a.tar.gz#../ae-2.6.0a.tar.gz
This includes both source and binaries, the latter which can be
installed on DP2. It seems to work just fine on my DP2 image using
VirtualBox on a MacOS X host.
dsc
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Re: OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, David dot Comay at Sun dot COM wrote:
>> installed the beast on VirtualBox on OS X (two betas in one shot) and I'm
>> without any network interface... Docs claims the virtual interface is an
>
> My recommendation for now with VirtualBox is to download Masayuki
> Murayama's "ae" driver
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> http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/ae-2.6.0a.tar.gz#../ae-2.6.0a.tar.gz
>
> This includes both source and binaries, the latter which can be
> installed on DP2. It seems to work just fine on my DP2 image using
> VirtualBox on a MacOS X host.
That's good, thank you. Now the problem is how to get it from the net
without network access. :-) I'll try to figure it out (I understand that
there is no "shared folders drivers" for Solaris).
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Re: OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available
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> That's good, thank you. Now the problem is how to get it from the net
> without network access. :-) I'll try to figure it out (I understand that
> there is no "shared folders drivers" for Solaris).
The way I got the "ae" tarball into the VM was to create an ISO under
MacOS X
$ mkdir ae-tmp
$ mv ae-2.6.0a.tar.gz ae-tmp
$ hdiutil makehybrid -o ae-tmp ae-tmp/
and then tell VirtualBox to export that ISO file, ae-tmp.iso, into the
VM.
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Re: OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available
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On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:14 PM, David dot Comay at Sun dot COM wrote:
>> $ mkdir ae-tmp
> $ mv ae-2.6.0a.tar.gz ae-tmp
> $ hdiutil makehybrid -o ae-tmp ae-tmp/
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> and then tell VirtualBox to export that ISO file, ae-tmp.iso, into the
> VM.
Or get VBox to mount it as a CD. -T
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Re: OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available
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The GNOME l10n packages are available from pkg.opensolaris.org:
pkg:/SUNWgnome-l10nmessages-ru@0.5.11,5.11-0.75:20071114T205021Z
Laca
On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 08:18 -0700, Sanjay Nadkarni wrote:
> Alex wrote:
> > What about national locales (russian) in this preview?
> >
> No localization is available for preview-2. We are planning on having
> this available for the next release.
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> -Sanjay
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Re: OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available
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On Feb 13, 2008 2:54 AM, Glynn Foster <Glynn dot Foster at sun dot com> wrote:
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> o ksh93 is the default *system* shell
It has been a long, long way since CR 655171. Thank you for the change.
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Re: [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Glynn Foster <Glynn dot Foster at Sun dot COM> wrote:
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>> o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default
>> user shell)
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> What do you understand by "*system* shell"?
>
> Jörg
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>
It's the shell /usr/sh points to. This satisfies backward compatibility
so you're not likely to have existing Solaris scripts break. Having
/usr/bash be the default shell for interactive logins satisfies most
immigrants from linux.
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Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris
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Brian
Joerg is referring to the fact that ksh93 and bourne shell have some
minor incompatibilities. It is possible to write a script that will
work differently in the two shells. Academics have even written some
scripts to demonstrate these incompatibilities really exist.
The three users in the universe who actually have scripts that
exhibit such problems will likely take a break from fixing their
punch-card reader, and after complaining, will end up fixing the
handful of scripts that actually have problems running in one
shell or the other.
Brian
> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>> Glynn Foster <Glynn dot Foster at Sun dot COM> wrote:
>>
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>>> o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default
>>> user shell)
>>>
>> What do you understand by "*system* shell"?
>>
>> Jörg
>>
>>
> It's the shell /usr/sh points to. This satisfies backward compatibility
> so you're not likely to have existing Solaris scripts break. Having
> /usr/bash be the default shell for interactive logins satisfies most
> immigrants from linux.
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Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris
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On Feb 13, 2008 3:12 PM, Brian Cameron <Brian dot Cameron at sun dot com> wrote:
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> Brian
>
> Joerg is referring to the fact that ksh93 and bourne shell have some
> minor incompatibilities. It is possible to write a script that will
> work differently in the two shells. Academics have even written some
> scripts to demonstrate these incompatibilities really exist.
>
> The three users in the universe who actually have scripts that
> exhibit such problems will likely take a break from fixing their
> punch-card reader, and after complaining, will end up fixing the
> handful of scripts that actually have problems running in one
> shell or the other.
...or just a developer who doesn't do what they're supposed to and the
user has to suffer.
The request script for the Marvell Yukon Ethernet Adapter has some bad
syntax that fails ksh93's POSIX-compliant printf behaviour. Of course
it doesn't matter since changes coming soon to Solaris will break that
anyway :)
Still, it isn't difficult to find programs that will break or have
unexpected behaviour.
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Re: [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer
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On Feb 13, 2008 11:10 AM, Joerg Schilling
<Joerg dot Schilling at fokus dot fraunhofer dot de> wrote:
> Glynn Foster <Glynn dot Foster at Sun dot COM> wrote:
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> > o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default
> > user shell)
>
> What do you understand by "*system* shell"?
/sbin/sh, /usr/bin/sh are now really ksh93.
The old shell is now:
/usr/has/bin/sh
...since it is a "hasbin" :)
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Re: [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris
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Feb 13, 2008 11:30 AM
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On Feb 13, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Rich Teer wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Shawn Walker wrote:
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>> /usr/has/bin/sh
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>> ...since it is a "hasbin" :)
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> Groan!
korny
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Re: [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer
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Feb 13, 2008 10:18 AM
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"Shawn Walker" <swalker at opensolaris dot org> wrote:
> On Feb 13, 2008 11:10 AM, Joerg Schilling
> <Joerg dot Schilling at fokus dot fraunhofer dot de> wrote:
> > Glynn Foster <Glynn dot Foster at Sun dot COM> wrote:
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> > > o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default
> > > user shell)
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> > What do you understand by "*system* shell"?
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> /sbin/sh, /usr/bin/sh are now really ksh93.
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> The old shell is now:
> /usr/has/bin/sh
Well, then Suun seems to start an incompatible fork from OpenSolaris.
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Re: [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer
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Feb 13, 2008 12:44 PM
in response to: joerg
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
> "Shawn Walker" <swalker at opensolaris dot org> wrote:
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>> On Feb 13, 2008 11:10 AM, Joerg Schilling
>> <Joerg dot Schilling at fokus dot fraunhofer dot de> wrote:
>>> Glynn Foster <Glynn dot Foster at Sun dot COM> wrote:
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>>>> o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default
>>>> user shell)
>>> What do you understand by "*system* shell"?
>> /sbin/sh, /usr/bin/sh are now really ksh93.
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>> The old shell is now:
>> /usr/has/bin/sh
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> Well, then Suun seems to start an incompatible fork from OpenSolaris.
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Sigh. We have made no statements about compatibility with anything,
either past or future, in the preview releases. It's an experiment.
The negativity some of you have towards experiments just amazes me
sometimes.
Dave
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Re: [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer
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Feb 13, 2008 2:53 PM
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On Feb 13, 2008 8:44 PM, Dave Miner <Dave dot Miner at sun dot com> wrote:
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> Sigh. We have made no statements about compatibility with anything,
> either past or future, in the preview releases. It's an experiment.
> The negativity some of you have towards experiments just amazes me
> sometimes.
But what's the experiment? Is OpenSolaris an experiment?
Is Indiana an experiment? Is the preview an experiment?
It would help a lot if the aims of this project were clearly explained
and enunciated, because I for one haven't a clue what they are, and
the more I think about it and look at what has been announced and
what's happening, the less clear it is to me what Indiana stands for.
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