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Project proposal: Open HA Cluster utilities
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Apr 8, 2008 12:54 PM
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Hi,
I would like to propose the following OpenSolaris project and ask for a
vote from the core contributors of the HA Clusters community group for
endorsement.
The voting time expires after a week from today. At least three +1 votes and
no -1 vote are required.
Many thanks for your consideration in advance!
#####
Project Synopsis: "Open HA Cluster Utilities" - short: "ha-utilities"
Project Purpose:
The purpose of this project is to provide an umbrella for all kinds
of utilities around Open HA Cluster. It will be a collection of
things that make development, administration, maintenance,
management etc. easier.
The project will start with a shell script, which extracts the
cluster
resource group and resource dependencies and affinities, and
transforms
the information into the "dot" language understood by the dot
command
within the open source graphviz tool. This will be a way to
visualize
the various dependencies/affinities as a colored directed graph.
Sponsoring Community Groups: HA Clusters
Initial Project Team:
Thorsten Frueauf (preferred point of contact)
Prasad Dharmavaram
Neil Garthwaite
Project Relation:
none
Project Needs:
Standard project page with code repository.
#####
Greets
Thorsten
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Re: Project proposal: Open HA Cluster
utilities
Posted:
Apr 9, 2008 6:32 AM
in response to: frueauf
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Hi Thorsten,
Sounds like a useful proposal. I would like to hear some more details,
if they have been hashed out yet. From what it appears, we seem to be
talking about this being a development center and repository for
any/all non-standard tools that can be used to help cluster
administration. And they won't be be part of the OHAC source tree, to
be shipped with Cluster express. Please let me know if I am mistaken.
If not, then what would be the eligibility criteria for development
under this umbrella, rather than say going to main source tree. May be
it can be taken up case-by-case, but if you thought more on this, then
please let us know.
thanks
Suraj
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Thorsten Frueauf
<Thorsten dot Frueauf at sun dot com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to propose the following OpenSolaris project and ask for a
> vote from the core contributors of the HA Clusters community group for
> endorsement.
>
> The voting time expires after a week from today. At least three +1 votes and
> no -1 vote are required.
>
> Many thanks for your consideration in advance!
>
> #####
>
> Project Synopsis: "Open HA Cluster Utilities" - short: "ha-utilities"
>
> Project Purpose:
> The purpose of this project is to provide an umbrella for all kinds
> of utilities around Open HA Cluster. It will be a collection of
> things that make development, administration, maintenance,
> management etc. easier.
>
> The project will start with a shell script, which extracts the
> cluster
> resource group and resource dependencies and affinities, and
> transforms
> the information into the "dot" language understood by the dot
> command
> within the open source graphviz tool. This will be a way to
> visualize
> the various dependencies/affinities as a colored directed graph.
>
> Sponsoring Community Groups: HA Clusters
>
> Initial Project Team:
> Thorsten Frueauf (preferred point of contact)
> Prasad Dharmavaram
> Neil Garthwaite
>
> Project Relation:
> none
>
> Project Needs:
> Standard project page with code repository.
>
> #####
>
> Greets
> Thorsten
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Sitz der Gesellschaft:
> Sun Microsystems GmbH, Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten
> Amtsgericht Muenchen: HRB 161028
> Geschaeftsfuehrer: Thomas Schroeder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Boemer
> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> _______________________________________________
> ha-clusters-discuss mailing list
> ha-clusters-discuss at opensolaris dot org
> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/ha-clusters-discuss
>
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Re: Project proposal: Open HA Cluster
utilities
Posted:
Apr 9, 2008 7:04 AM
in response to: skverma
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Hi Suraj et al,
you got this absolutely right. I don't have an exact criteria and would
propose to handle it on a case by case basis.
Maybe one criteria could be that the tool is small (maybe even just one
file/script) and is customizable - so while it fulfills a purpose of
general interest, there might be a need to customize it for specific of
a specific user or environment.
Like the first example I gave and plan to put under this umbrella -
maybe someone wants different colors for the arrows in the graph or
additional informations added to the graph, etc - then the user would
customize the script for her needs.
Another criteria is that we won't raise the quality bar on those
utilities with the requirement to be "production ready" or "throughly
tested" - they may just be useful with specific restrictions accepted
and not (yet) contain all possible bells and whistles.
Of course this means all those utilities go with the usual disclaimer -
use at own risk, etc.
Greets
Thorsten
suraj verma wrote:
> Hi Thorsten,
> Sounds like a useful proposal. I would like to hear some more details,
> if they have been hashed out yet. From what it appears, we seem to be
> talking about this being a development center and repository for
> any/all non-standard tools that can be used to help cluster
> administration. And they won't be be part of the OHAC source tree, to
> be shipped with Cluster express. Please let me know if I am mistaken.
> If not, then what would be the eligibility criteria for development
> under this umbrella, rather than say going to main source tree. May be
> it can be taken up case-by-case, but if you thought more on this, then
> please let us know.
>
> thanks
> Suraj
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Thorsten Frueauf
> <Thorsten dot Frueauf at sun dot com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to propose the following OpenSolaris project and ask for a
>> vote from the core contributors of the HA Clusters community group for
>> endorsement.
>>
>> The voting time expires after a week from today. At least three +1 votes and
>> no -1 vote are required.
>>
>> Many thanks for your consideration in advance!
>>
>> #####
>>
>> Project Synopsis: "Open HA Cluster Utilities" - short: "ha-utilities"
>>
>> Project Purpose:
>> The purpose of this project is to provide an umbrella for all kinds
>> of utilities around Open HA Cluster. It will be a collection of
>> things that make development, administration, maintenance,
>> management etc. easier.
>>
>> The project will start with a shell script, which extracts the
>> cluster
>> resource group and resource dependencies and affinities, and
>> transforms
>> the information into the "dot" language understood by the dot
>> command
>> within the open source graphviz tool. This will be a way to
>> visualize
>> the various dependencies/affinities as a colored directed graph.
>>
>> Sponsoring Community Groups: HA Clusters
>>
>> Initial Project Team:
>> Thorsten Frueauf (preferred point of contact)
>> Prasad Dharmavaram
>> Neil Garthwaite
>>
>> Project Relation:
>> none
>>
>> Project Needs:
>> Standard project page with code repository.
>>
>> #####
>>
>> Greets
>> Thorsten
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Amtsgericht Muenchen: HRB 161028
Geschaeftsfuehrer: Thomas Schroeder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Boemer
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering
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Re: Project proposal: Open HA
Cluster utilities
Posted:
Apr 9, 2008 7:44 AM
in response to: frueauf
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Sorry for the self-reply,
but just so that everyone can get a better understanding of what the
purpose of the script is, which I want to put under this umbrella, I
wrote a blog with some screenshots:
http://blogs.sun.com/TF/entry/visualizing_solaris_cluster_resource_group
Greets
Thorsten
Thorsten Frueauf wrote:
> Hi Suraj et al,
>
> you got this absolutely right. I don't have an exact criteria and would
> propose to handle it on a case by case basis.
>
> Maybe one criteria could be that the tool is small (maybe even just one
> file/script) and is customizable - so while it fulfills a purpose of
> general interest, there might be a need to customize it for specific of
> a specific user or environment.
>
> Like the first example I gave and plan to put under this umbrella -
> maybe someone wants different colors for the arrows in the graph or
> additional informations added to the graph, etc - then the user would
> customize the script for her needs.
>
> Another criteria is that we won't raise the quality bar on those
> utilities with the requirement to be "production ready" or "throughly
> tested" - they may just be useful with specific restrictions accepted
> and not (yet) contain all possible bells and whistles.
>
> Of course this means all those utilities go with the usual disclaimer -
> use at own risk, etc.
>
> Greets
> Thorsten
>
> suraj verma wrote:
>> Hi Thorsten,
>> Sounds like a useful proposal. I would like to hear some more details,
>> if they have been hashed out yet. From what it appears, we seem to be
>> talking about this being a development center and repository for
>> any/all non-standard tools that can be used to help cluster
>> administration. And they won't be be part of the OHAC source tree, to
>> be shipped with Cluster express. Please let me know if I am mistaken.
>> If not, then what would be the eligibility criteria for development
>> under this umbrella, rather than say going to main source tree. May be
>> it can be taken up case-by-case, but if you thought more on this, then
>> please let us know.
>>
>> thanks
>> Suraj
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Thorsten Frueauf
>> <Thorsten dot Frueauf at sun dot com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I would like to propose the following OpenSolaris project and ask for a
>>> vote from the core contributors of the HA Clusters community group for
>>> endorsement.
>>>
>>> The voting time expires after a week from today. At least three +1 votes and
>>> no -1 vote are required.
>>>
>>> Many thanks for your consideration in advance!
>>>
>>> #####
>>>
>>> Project Synopsis: "Open HA Cluster Utilities" - short: "ha-utilities"
>>>
>>> Project Purpose:
>>> The purpose of this project is to provide an umbrella for all kinds
>>> of utilities around Open HA Cluster. It will be a collection of
>>> things that make development, administration, maintenance,
>>> management etc. easier.
>>>
>>> The project will start with a shell script, which extracts the
>>> cluster
>>> resource group and resource dependencies and affinities, and
>>> transforms
>>> the information into the "dot" language understood by the dot
>>> command
>>> within the open source graphviz tool. This will be a way to
>>> visualize
>>> the various dependencies/affinities as a colored directed graph.
>>>
>>> Sponsoring Community Groups: HA Clusters
>>>
>>> Initial Project Team:
>>> Thorsten Frueauf (preferred point of contact)
>>> Prasad Dharmavaram
>>> Neil Garthwaite
>>>
>>> Project Relation:
>>> none
>>>
>>> Project Needs:
>>> Standard project page with code repository.
>>>
>>> #####
>>>
>>> Greets
>>> Thorsten
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Amtsgericht Muenchen: HRB 161028
Geschaeftsfuehrer: Thomas Schroeder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Boemer
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering
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Re: Project proposal: Open
HA Cluster utilities
Posted:
Apr 9, 2008 8:07 AM
in response to: frueauf
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Hi Thorsten,
I think it's a good idea to encourage the community to deliver
"stuff". If I remember correctly that's how Patrik's "dump cluster
config tool" started. B.t.w the graphs look very good.
+1
Regards
Neil
On 9 Apr 2008, at 15:44, Thorsten Frueauf wrote:
> Sorry for the self-reply,
>
> but just so that everyone can get a better understanding of what the
> purpose of the script is, which I want to put under this umbrella, I
> wrote a blog with some screenshots:
>
> http://blogs.sun.com/TF/entry/visualizing_solaris_cluster_resource_group
>
> Greets
> Thorsten
>
> Thorsten Frueauf wrote:
>> Hi Suraj et al,
>>
>> you got this absolutely right. I don't have an exact criteria and
>> would
>> propose to handle it on a case by case basis.
>>
>> Maybe one criteria could be that the tool is small (maybe even just
>> one
>> file/script) and is customizable - so while it fulfills a purpose of
>> general interest, there might be a need to customize it for
>> specific of
>> a specific user or environment.
>>
>> Like the first example I gave and plan to put under this umbrella -
>> maybe someone wants different colors for the arrows in the graph or
>> additional informations added to the graph, etc - then the user would
>> customize the script for her needs.
>>
>> Another criteria is that we won't raise the quality bar on those
>> utilities with the requirement to be "production ready" or "throughly
>> tested" - they may just be useful with specific restrictions accepted
>> and not (yet) contain all possible bells and whistles.
>>
>> Of course this means all those utilities go with the usual
>> disclaimer -
>> use at own risk, etc.
>>
>> Greets
>> Thorsten
>>
>> suraj verma wrote:
>>> Hi Thorsten,
>>> Sounds like a useful proposal. I would like to hear some more
>>> details,
>>> if they have been hashed out yet. From what it appears, we seem to
>>> be
>>> talking about this being a development center and repository for
>>> any/all non-standard tools that can be used to help cluster
>>> administration. And they won't be be part of the OHAC source tree,
>>> to
>>> be shipped with Cluster express. Please let me know if I am
>>> mistaken.
>>> If not, then what would be the eligibility criteria for development
>>> under this umbrella, rather than say going to main source tree.
>>> May be
>>> it can be taken up case-by-case, but if you thought more on this,
>>> then
>>> please let us know.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> Suraj
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Thorsten Frueauf
>>> <Thorsten dot Frueauf at sun dot com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to propose the following OpenSolaris project and ask
>>>> for a
>>>> vote from the core contributors of the HA Clusters community
>>>> group for
>>>> endorsement.
>>>>
>>>> The voting time expires after a week from today. At least three
>>>> +1 votes and
>>>> no -1 vote are required.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks for your consideration in advance!
>>>>
>>>> #####
>>>>
>>>> Project Synopsis: "Open HA Cluster Utilities" - short: "ha-
>>>> utilities"
>>>>
>>>> Project Purpose:
>>>> The purpose of this project is to provide an umbrella for
>>>> all kinds
>>>> of utilities around Open HA Cluster. It will be a
>>>> collection of
>>>> things that make development, administration, maintenance,
>>>> management etc. easier.
>>>>
>>>> The project will start with a shell script, which
>>>> extracts the
>>>> cluster
>>>> resource group and resource dependencies and affinities,
>>>> and
>>>> transforms
>>>> the information into the "dot" language understood by the
>>>> dot
>>>> command
>>>> within the open source graphviz tool. This will be a way to
>>>> visualize
>>>> the various dependencies/affinities as a colored directed
>>>> graph.
>>>>
>>>> Sponsoring Community Groups: HA Clusters
>>>>
>>>> Initial Project Team:
>>>> Thorsten Frueauf (preferred point of contact)
>>>> Prasad Dharmavaram
>>>> Neil Garthwaite
>>>>
>>>> Project Relation:
>>>> none
>>>>
>>>> Project Needs:
>>>> Standard project page with code repository.
>>>>
>>>> #####
>>>>
>>>> Greets
>>>> Thorsten
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> Boemer
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Re: Project proposal: Open HA Cluster
utilities
Posted:
Apr 9, 2008 9:17 AM
in response to: frueauf
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Hi Thorsten,
Thanks for the clarifications which sound good to me.
+1 for the proposal
Thanks
Suraj
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Thorsten Frueauf
<Thorsten dot Frueauf at sun dot com> wrote:
> Hi Suraj et al,
>
> you got this absolutely right. I don't have an exact criteria and would
> propose to handle it on a case by case basis.
>
> Maybe one criteria could be that the tool is small (maybe even just one
> file/script) and is customizable - so while it fulfills a purpose of general
> interest, there might be a need to customize it for specific of a specific
> user or environment.
>
> Like the first example I gave and plan to put under this umbrella - maybe
> someone wants different colors for the arrows in the graph or additional
> informations added to the graph, etc - then the user would customize the
> script for her needs.
>
> Another criteria is that we won't raise the quality bar on those utilities
> with the requirement to be "production ready" or "throughly tested" - they
> may just be useful with specific restrictions accepted and not (yet) contain
> all possible bells and whistles.
>
> Of course this means all those utilities go with the usual disclaimer - use
> at own risk, etc.
>
> Greets
> Thorsten
>
>
>
> suraj verma wrote:
>
> > Hi Thorsten,
> > Sounds like a useful proposal. I would like to hear some more details,
> > if they have been hashed out yet. From what it appears, we seem to be
> > talking about this being a development center and repository for
> > any/all non-standard tools that can be used to help cluster
> > administration. And they won't be be part of the OHAC source tree, to
> > be shipped with Cluster express. Please let me know if I am mistaken.
> > If not, then what would be the eligibility criteria for development
> > under this umbrella, rather than say going to main source tree. May be
> > it can be taken up case-by-case, but if you thought more on this, then
> > please let us know.
> >
> > thanks
> > Suraj
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Thorsten Frueauf
> > <Thorsten dot Frueauf at sun dot com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I would like to propose the following OpenSolaris project and ask for a
> > > vote from the core contributors of the HA Clusters community group for
> > > endorsement.
> > >
> > > The voting time expires after a week from today. At least three +1
> votes and
> > > no -1 vote are required.
> > >
> > > Many thanks for your consideration in advance!
> > >
> > > #####
> > >
> > > Project Synopsis: "Open HA Cluster Utilities" - short: "ha-utilities"
> > >
> > > Project Purpose:
> > > The purpose of this project is to provide an umbrella for all
> kinds
> > > of utilities around Open HA Cluster. It will be a collection of
> > > things that make development, administration, maintenance,
> > > management etc. easier.
> > >
> > > The project will start with a shell script, which extracts the
> > > cluster
> > > resource group and resource dependencies and affinities, and
> > > transforms
> > > the information into the "dot" language understood by the dot
> > > command
> > > within the open source graphviz tool. This will be a way to
> > > visualize
> > > the various dependencies/affinities as a colored directed graph.
> > >
> > > Sponsoring Community Groups: HA Clusters
> > >
> > > Initial Project Team:
> > > Thorsten Frueauf (preferred point of contact)
> > > Prasad Dharmavaram
> > > Neil Garthwaite
> > >
> > > Project Relation:
> > > none
> > >
> > > Project Needs:
> > > Standard project page with code repository.
> > >
> > > #####
> > >
> > > Greets
> > > Thorsten
> > >
> >
>
> --
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> Sitz der Gesellschaft:
> Sun Microsystems GmbH, Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten
> Amtsgericht Muenchen: HRB 161028
> Geschaeftsfuehrer: Thomas Schroeder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Boemer
> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
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Re: Project proposal: Open HA
Cluster utilities
Posted:
Apr 9, 2008 9:39 AM
in response to: skverma
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Thorsten,
I like this idea.
+1 vote from me.
May be you can either move the Advanced Agent builder under this
category or create a link from this tools/utilities page.
Thanks,
--Prasad
suraj verma wrote:
> Hi Thorsten,
> Thanks for the clarifications which sound good to me.
>
> +1 for the proposal
>
> Thanks
> Suraj
>
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Thorsten Frueauf
> <Thorsten dot Frueauf at sun dot com> wrote:
>> Hi Suraj et al,
>>
>> you got this absolutely right. I don't have an exact criteria and would
>> propose to handle it on a case by case basis.
>>
>> Maybe one criteria could be that the tool is small (maybe even just one
>> file/script) and is customizable - so while it fulfills a purpose of general
>> interest, there might be a need to customize it for specific of a specific
>> user or environment.
>>
>> Like the first example I gave and plan to put under this umbrella - maybe
>> someone wants different colors for the arrows in the graph or additional
>> informations added to the graph, etc - then the user would customize the
>> script for her needs.
>>
>> Another criteria is that we won't raise the quality bar on those utilities
>> with the requirement to be "production ready" or "throughly tested" - they
>> may just be useful with specific restrictions accepted and not (yet) contain
>> all possible bells and whistles.
>>
>> Of course this means all those utilities go with the usual disclaimer - use
>> at own risk, etc.
>>
>> Greets
>> Thorsten
>>
>>
>>
>> suraj verma wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Thorsten,
>>> Sounds like a useful proposal. I would like to hear some more details,
>>> if they have been hashed out yet. From what it appears, we seem to be
>>> talking about this being a development center and repository for
>>> any/all non-standard tools that can be used to help cluster
>>> administration. And they won't be be part of the OHAC source tree, to
>>> be shipped with Cluster express. Please let me know if I am mistaken.
>>> If not, then what would be the eligibility criteria for development
>>> under this umbrella, rather than say going to main source tree. May be
>>> it can be taken up case-by-case, but if you thought more on this, then
>>> please let us know.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> Suraj
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Thorsten Frueauf
>>> <Thorsten dot Frueauf at sun dot com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to propose the following OpenSolaris project and ask for a
>>>> vote from the core contributors of the HA Clusters community group for
>>>> endorsement.
>>>>
>>>> The voting time expires after a week from today. At least three +1
>> votes and
>>>> no -1 vote are required.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks for your consideration in advance!
>>>>
>>>> #####
>>>>
>>>> Project Synopsis: "Open HA Cluster Utilities" - short: "ha-utilities"
>>>>
>>>> Project Purpose:
>>>> The purpose of this project is to provide an umbrella for all
>> kinds
>>>> of utilities around Open HA Cluster. It will be a collection of
>>>> things that make development, administration, maintenance,
>>>> management etc. easier.
>>>>
>>>> The project will start with a shell script, which extracts the
>>>> cluster
>>>> resource group and resource dependencies and affinities, and
>>>> transforms
>>>> the information into the "dot" language understood by the dot
>>>> command
>>>> within the open source graphviz tool. This will be a way to
>>>> visualize
>>>> the various dependencies/affinities as a colored directed graph.
>>>>
>>>> Sponsoring Community Groups: HA Clusters
>>>>
>>>> Initial Project Team:
>>>> Thorsten Frueauf (preferred point of contact)
>>>> Prasad Dharmavaram
>>>> Neil Garthwaite
>>>>
>>>> Project Relation:
>>>> none
>>>>
>>>> Project Needs:
>>>> Standard project page with code repository.
>>>>
>>>> #####
>>>>
>>>> Greets
>>>> Thorsten
>>>>
>> --
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Sitz der Gesellschaft:
>> Sun Microsystems GmbH, Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten
>> Amtsgericht Muenchen: HRB 161028
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Re: Project proposal: Open HA
Cluster utilities
Posted:
Apr 14, 2008 10:11 AM
in response to: frueauf
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Thorsten,
I think this project is a good idea, but I have a couple questions to
follow-on to Suraj's questions. In your response to Suraj below you
imply that tools developed as part of this project would not be destined
for the official source repository, from which Cluster Express is built.
I'm not sure I would want to preclude that possibility. Why couldn't
tools developed as part of this project go into the official source
repository if the developer wants to do the work to make them
production-quality?
Second, would this project be an appropriate place to host the GDS
template that's currently not attached to any project?
Thanks,
Nick
Thorsten Frueauf wrote:
> Hi Suraj et al,
>
> you got this absolutely right. I don't have an exact criteria and would
> propose to handle it on a case by case basis.
>
> Maybe one criteria could be that the tool is small (maybe even just one
> file/script) and is customizable - so while it fulfills a purpose of
> general interest, there might be a need to customize it for specific of
> a specific user or environment.
>
> Like the first example I gave and plan to put under this umbrella -
> maybe someone wants different colors for the arrows in the graph or
> additional informations added to the graph, etc - then the user would
> customize the script for her needs.
>
> Another criteria is that we won't raise the quality bar on those
> utilities with the requirement to be "production ready" or "throughly
> tested" - they may just be useful with specific restrictions accepted
> and not (yet) contain all possible bells and whistles.
>
> Of course this means all those utilities go with the usual disclaimer -
> use at own risk, etc.
>
> Greets
> Thorsten
>
> suraj verma wrote:
>> Hi Thorsten,
>> Sounds like a useful proposal. I would like to hear some more details,
>> if they have been hashed out yet. From what it appears, we seem to be
>> talking about this being a development center and repository for
>> any/all non-standard tools that can be used to help cluster
>> administration. And they won't be be part of the OHAC source tree, to
>> be shipped with Cluster express. Please let me know if I am mistaken.
>> If not, then what would be the eligibility criteria for development
>> under this umbrella, rather than say going to main source tree. May be
>> it can be taken up case-by-case, but if you thought more on this, then
>> please let us know.
>>
>> thanks
>> Suraj
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Thorsten Frueauf
>> <Thorsten dot Frueauf at sun dot com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I would like to propose the following OpenSolaris project and ask for a
>>> vote from the core contributors of the HA Clusters community group for
>>> endorsement.
>>>
>>> The voting time expires after a week from today. At least three +1 votes and
>>> no -1 vote are required.
>>>
>>> Many thanks for your consideration in advance!
>>>
>>> #####
>>>
>>> Project Synopsis: "Open HA Cluster Utilities" - short: "ha-utilities"
>>>
>>> Project Purpose:
>>> The purpose of this project is to provide an umbrella for all kinds
>>> of utilities around Open HA Cluster. It will be a collection of
>>> things that make development, administration, maintenance,
>>> management etc. easier.
>>>
>>> The project will start with a shell script, which extracts the
>>> cluster
>>> resource group and resource dependencies and affinities, and
>>> transforms
>>> the information into the "dot" language understood by the dot
>>> command
>>> within the open source graphviz tool. This will be a way to
>>> visualize
>>> the various dependencies/affinities as a colored directed graph.
>>>
>>> Sponsoring Community Groups: HA Clusters
>>>
>>> Initial Project Team:
>>> Thorsten Frueauf (preferred point of contact)
>>> Prasad Dharmavaram
>>> Neil Garthwaite
>>>
>>> Project Relation:
>>> none
>>>
>>> Project Needs:
>>> Standard project page with code repository.
>>>
>>> #####
>>>
>>> Greets
>>> Thorsten
>
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Re: Project proposal: Open HA
Cluster utilities
Posted:
Apr 14, 2008 10:53 AM
in response to: nsolter
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Hi Nick et al,
sure, utilities developed and collected under this projects umbrella
does not imply that it must be included within the official source
repository, but it is also not excluded per se to let that happen.
The point I wanted to make is that in order to be part of this project,
we allow a lower barrier of providing docs/testing/QA etc. Of course if
a specific tool turns out to be popular, useful, etc, than we can always
look into taking the next step and making it ready for official
integration. It's just not the primary focus.
The goal is really to collect useful utilities that solve some kind of
generic problem like to be leveraged by others.
The GDS template could be part of this project, although I would like to
keep the existing information at the current place since I already refer
to it in some places :)
But if there is a reason to move it under this umbrella, we always can.
Greets
Thorsten
Nicholas Solter wrote:
> Thorsten,
>
> I think this project is a good idea, but I have a couple questions to
> follow-on to Suraj's questions. In your response to Suraj below you
> imply that tools developed as part of this project would not be destined
> for the official source repository, from which Cluster Express is built.
> I'm not sure I would want to preclude that possibility. Why couldn't
> tools developed as part of this project go into the official source
> repository if the developer wants to do the work to make them
> production-quality?
>
> Second, would this project be an appropriate place to host the GDS
> template that's currently not attached to any project?
>
> Thanks,
> Nick
>
> Thorsten Frueauf wrote:
>> Hi Suraj et al,
>>
>> you got this absolutely right. I don't have an exact criteria and
>> would propose to handle it on a case by case basis.
>>
>> Maybe one criteria could be that the tool is small (maybe even just
>> one file/script) and is customizable - so while it fulfills a purpose
>> of general interest, there might be a need to customize it for
>> specific of a specific user or environment.
>>
>> Like the first example I gave and plan to put under this umbrella -
>> maybe someone wants different colors for the arrows in the graph or
>> additional informations added to the graph, etc - then the user would
>> customize the script for her needs.
>>
>> Another criteria is that we won't raise the quality bar on those
>> utilities with the requirement to be "production ready" or "throughly
>> tested" - they may just be useful with specific restrictions accepted
>> and not (yet) contain all possible bells and whistles.
>>
>> Of course this means all those utilities go with the usual disclaimer
>> - use at own risk, etc.
>>
>> Greets
>> Thorsten
>>
>> suraj verma wrote:
>>> Hi Thorsten,
>>> Sounds like a useful proposal. I would like to hear some more details,
>>> if they have been hashed out yet. From what it appears, we seem to be
>>> talking about this being a development center and repository for
>>> any/all non-standard tools that can be used to help cluster
>>> administration. And they won't be be part of the OHAC source tree, to
>>> be shipped with Cluster express. Please let me know if I am mistaken.
>>> If not, then what would be the eligibility criteria for development
>>> under this umbrella, rather than say going to main source tree. May be
>>> it can be taken up case-by-case, but if you thought more on this, then
>>> please let us know.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> Suraj
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Thorsten Frueauf
>>> <Thorsten dot Frueauf at sun dot com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to propose the following OpenSolaris project and ask
>>>> for a
>>>> vote from the core contributors of the HA Clusters community group for
>>>> endorsement.
>>>>
>>>> The voting time expires after a week from today. At least three +1
>>>> votes and
>>>> no -1 vote are required.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks for your consideration in advance!
>>>>
>>>> #####
>>>>
>>>> Project Synopsis: "Open HA Cluster Utilities" - short: "ha-utilities"
>>>>
>>>> Project Purpose:
>>>> The purpose of this project is to provide an umbrella for
>>>> all kinds
>>>> of utilities around Open HA Cluster. It will be a
>>>> collection of
>>>> things that make development, administration, maintenance,
>>>> management etc. easier.
>>>>
>>>> The project will start with a shell script, which extracts the
>>>> cluster
>>>> resource group and resource dependencies and affinities, and
>>>> transforms
>>>> the information into the "dot" language understood by the dot
>>>> command
>>>> within the open source graphviz tool. This will be a way to
>>>> visualize
>>>> the various dependencies/affinities as a colored directed
>>>> graph.
>>>>
>>>> Sponsoring Community Groups: HA Clusters
>>>>
>>>> Initial Project Team:
>>>> Thorsten Frueauf (preferred point of contact)
>>>> Prasad Dharmavaram
>>>> Neil Garthwaite
>>>>
>>>> Project Relation:
>>>> none
>>>>
>>>> Project Needs:
>>>> Standard project page with code repository.
>>>>
>>>> #####
>>>>
>>>> Greets
>>>> Thorsten
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Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering
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Re: Project proposal: Open
HA Cluster utilities
Posted:
Apr 14, 2008 4:04 PM
in response to: frueauf
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Thorsten,
That all sounds fine. So +1 from me for this proposal.
Thanks,
Nick
Thorsten Frueauf wrote:
> Hi Nick et al,
>
> sure, utilities developed and collected under this projects umbrella
> does not imply that it must be included within the official source
> repository, but it is also not excluded per se to let that happen.
>
> The point I wanted to make is that in order to be part of this project,
> we allow a lower barrier of providing docs/testing/QA etc. Of course if
> a specific tool turns out to be popular, useful, etc, than we can always
> look into taking the next step and making it ready for official
> integration. It's just not the primary focus.
>
> The goal is really to collect useful utilities that solve some kind of
> generic problem like to be leveraged by others.
>
> The GDS template could be part of this project, although I would like to
> keep the existing information at the current place since I already refer
> to it in some places :)
>
> But if there is a reason to move it under this umbrella, we always can.
>
> Greets
> Thorsten
>
> Nicholas Solter wrote:
>> Thorsten,
>>
>> I think this project is a good idea, but I have a couple questions to
>> follow-on to Suraj's questions. In your response to Suraj below you
>> imply that tools developed as part of this project would not be destined
>> for the official source repository, from which Cluster Express is built.
>> I'm not sure I would want to preclude that possibility. Why couldn't
>> tools developed as part of this project go into the official source
>> repository if the developer wants to do the work to make them
>> production-quality?
>>
>> Second, would this project be an appropriate place to host the GDS
>> template that's currently not attached to any project?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nick
>>
>> Thorsten Frueauf wrote:
>>> Hi Suraj et al,
>>>
>>> you got this absolutely right. I don't have an exact criteria and
>>> would propose to handle it on a case by case basis.
>>>
>>> Maybe one criteria could be that the tool is small (maybe even just
>>> one file/script) and is customizable - so while it fulfills a purpose
>>> of general interest, there might be a need to customize it for
>>> specific of a specific user or environment.
>>>
>>> Like the first example I gave and plan to put under this umbrella -
>>> maybe someone wants different colors for the arrows in the graph or
>>> additional informations added to the graph, etc - then the user would
>>> customize the script for her needs.
>>>
>>> Another criteria is that we won't raise the quality bar on those
>>> utilities with the requirement to be "production ready" or "throughly
>>> tested" - they may just be useful with specific restrictions accepted
>>> and not (yet) contain all possible bells and whistles.
>>>
>>> Of course this means all those utilities go with the usual disclaimer
>>> - use at own risk, etc.
>>>
>>> Greets
>>> Thorsten
>>>
>>> suraj verma wrote:
>>>> Hi Thorsten,
>>>> Sounds like a useful proposal. I would like to hear some more details,
>>>> if they have been hashed out yet. From what it appears, we seem to be
>>>> talking about this being a development center and repository for
>>>> any/all non-standard tools that can be used to help cluster
>>>> administration. And they won't be be part of the OHAC source tree, to
>>>> be shipped with Cluster express. Please let me know if I am mistaken.
>>>> If not, then what would be the eligibility criteria for development
>>>> under this umbrella, rather than say going to main source tree. May be
>>>> it can be taken up case-by-case, but if you thought more on this, then
>>>> please let us know.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> Suraj
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Thorsten Frueauf
>>>> <Thorsten dot Frueauf at sun dot com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to propose the following OpenSolaris project and ask
>>>>> for a
>>>>> vote from the core contributors of the HA Clusters community group for
>>>>> endorsement.
>>>>>
>>>>> The voting time expires after a week from today. At least three +1
>>>>> votes and
>>>>> no -1 vote are required.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks for your consideration in advance!
>>>>>
>>>>> #####
>>>>>
>>>>> Project Synopsis: "Open HA Cluster Utilities" - short: "ha-utilities"
>>>>>
>>>>> Project Purpose:
>>>>> The purpose of this project is to provide an umbrella for
>>>>> all kinds
>>>>> of utilities around Open HA Cluster. It will be a
>>>>> collection of
>>>>> things that make development, administration, maintenance,
>>>>> management etc. easier.
>>>>>
>>>>> The project will start with a shell script, which extracts the
>>>>> cluster
>>>>> resource group and resource dependencies and affinities, and
>>>>> transforms
>>>>> the information into the "dot" language understood by the dot
>>>>> command
>>>>> within the open source graphviz tool. This will be a way to
>>>>> visualize
>>>>> the various dependencies/affinities as a colored directed
>>>>> graph.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sponsoring Community Groups: HA Clusters
>>>>>
>>>>> Initial Project Team:
>>>>> Thorsten Frueauf (preferred point of contact)
>>>>> Prasad Dharmavaram
>>>>> Neil Garthwaite
>>>>>
>>>>> Project Relation:
>>>>> none
>>>>>
>>>>> Project Needs:
>>>>> Standard project page with code repository.
>>>>>
>>>>> #####
>>>>>
>>>>> Greets
>>>>> Thorsten
>
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Re: Project proposal: Open HA Cluster
utilities
Posted:
Apr 17, 2008 2:18 AM
in response to: frueauf
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Hi everyone,
thanks for the feedback, I formally conclude that the voting time
expired and this project is endorsed by the HA Clusters Community Group
with four +1 and no -1 vote.
Nick, as the facilitator for the HA Clusters community group, can you
request the project page creation by sending this to project-setup?
Greets
Thorsten
Thorsten Frueauf wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to propose the following OpenSolaris project and ask for a
> vote from the core contributors of the HA Clusters community group for
> endorsement.
>
> The voting time expires after a week from today. At least three +1 votes and
> no -1 vote are required.
>
> Many thanks for your consideration in advance!
>
> #####
>
> Project Synopsis: "Open HA Cluster Utilities" - short: "ha-utilities"
>
> Project Purpose:
> The purpose of this project is to provide an umbrella for all kinds
> of utilities around Open HA Cluster. It will be a collection of
> things that make development, administration, maintenance,
> management etc. easier.
>
> The project will start with a shell script, which extracts the
> cluster
> resource group and resource dependencies and affinities, and
> transforms
> the information into the "dot" language understood by the dot
> command
> within the open source graphviz tool. This will be a way to
> visualize
> the various dependencies/affinities as a colored directed graph.
>
> Sponsoring Community Groups: HA Clusters
>
> Initial Project Team:
> Thorsten Frueauf (preferred point of contact)
> Prasad Dharmavaram
> Neil Garthwaite
>
> Project Relation:
> none
>
> Project Needs:
> Standard project page with code repository.
>
> #####
>
> Greets
> Thorsten
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Re: Project proposal: Open HA Cluster
utilities
Posted:
Apr 17, 2008 7:17 PM
in response to: frueauf
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Thorsten,
I've sent the information to the project-setup mailing list.
Thanks,
Nick
Thorsten Frueauf wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> thanks for the feedback, I formally conclude that the voting time
> expired and this project is endorsed by the HA Clusters Community Group
> with four +1 and no -1 vote.
>
> Nick, as the facilitator for the HA Clusters community group, can you
> request the project page creation by sending this to project-setup?
>
> Greets
> Thorsten
>
> Thorsten Frueauf wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to propose the following OpenSolaris project and ask for a
>> vote from the core contributors of the HA Clusters community group for
>> endorsement.
>>
>> The voting time expires after a week from today. At least three +1
>> votes and
>> no -1 vote are required.
>>
>> Many thanks for your consideration in advance!
>>
>> #####
>>
>> Project Synopsis: "Open HA Cluster Utilities" - short: "ha-utilities"
>>
>> Project Purpose:
>> The purpose of this project is to provide an umbrella for all
>> kinds
>> of utilities around Open HA Cluster. It will be a collection of
>> things that make development, administration, maintenance,
>> management etc. easier.
>>
>> The project will start with a shell script, which extracts
>> the cluster
>> resource group and resource dependencies and affinities, and
>> transforms
>> the information into the "dot" language understood by the dot
>> command
>> within the open source graphviz tool. This will be a way to
>> visualize
>> the various dependencies/affinities as a colored directed graph.
>>
>> Sponsoring Community Groups: HA Clusters
>>
>> Initial Project Team:
>> Thorsten Frueauf (preferred point of contact)
>> Prasad Dharmavaram
>> Neil Garthwaite
>>
>> Project Relation:
>> none
>>
>> Project Needs:
>> Standard project page with code repository.
>>
>> #####
>>
>> Greets
>> Thorsten
>
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