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Colorado project page, requirements,
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Aug 27, 2008 2:17 PM
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Hi folks,
The Colorado project page is finally online at
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/colorado/
There is also a project wiki at
http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Project_Colorado
Following the process at
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ha-clusters/ohac/contribute/CLARC/,
I have scheduled a CLARC inception review for September 18. At that
meeting, the Cluster Architecture Review Committee (CLARC) will review
the requirements specification. We will provide a public call-in number
for that meeting.
A draft of the project requirements can be found at
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/colorado/Requirements/. Please review
the requirements and send any comments by September 10 (two weeks from
today) so that there is time to incorporate them. Note that there are
five different requirements documents because the Colorado project
includes several sub-projects.
Also, a few of us have been working on building and bringup of OHAC on
OpenSolaris 2008.05/2008.11, as well as IPS package conversion. Most of
the status and info can be found on the project wiki. Anyone who is
interested in helping with these tasks, please let me know.
Thanks,
Nick
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Re: [ha-clusters-discuss] Colorado project page, requirements,
and development
Posted:
Aug 29, 2008 3:32 AM
in response to: nsolter
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Hi Nick,
After reviewing the project requirements, I just have a few comments.
Referencing http://opensolaris.org/os/project/colorado/Requirements/ColoradoReqSpec.pdf
1.3.2 Phased Approach and Phases
Looking at the phased alignments with OpenSolaris 2009.04, 2009.10 and
possibly 2010.04 are there any restrictions to what additional IPS
packages can be installed. In particular, I'm interested if someone
could install the xVM packages to create a xVM Dom0 in OpenSolaris so
that Colorado can coexist within Dom0, i.e. Colorado installed on top
of a booted Dom0 OpenSolaris.
Note, I'm aware of 2.2.10 Ease of Use, in particular R46, "Colorado
will include interfaces to support cluster in a software appliance."
2.2.5 Agents
R29: Will Samba be included within the optional agents listed in R29.
2.2.7 Building and Development
R39: Just to fully understand the terminology being used here.
"[Phases 1-3] Colorado will not be a fork of the Sun Cluster gate. The
code will be integrated into the main development gate, using #ifdefs
and macros/flags where appropriate."
After also considering that "Project Colorado is a binary distribution
of Sun Cluster that runs on the OpenSolaris binary distribution."
Is the "where appropriate" meant to provide a distinction between
Solaris and OpenSolaris binary distributions.
Referencing http://opensolaris.org/os/project/colorado/Requirements/colorado-haci.pdf
4.2 Installation
I'm a little confused with the sentence, "Sun Cluster supports 2-node
clusters with no quorum devices." Is this really meant to be
a) Implies that if no quorum device is used then a quorum server must
be used.
b) That Colorado will introduce support for 2-node clusters with weak
membership.
I'll take a look at the other requirements at a later date.
Overall, it looks very exciting.
Regards
Neil
On 27 Aug 2008, at 22:17, Nicholas Solter wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> The Colorado project page is finally online at
> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/colorado/
>
> There is also a project wiki at
> http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Project_Colorado
>
> Following the process at
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ha-clusters/ohac/contribute/CLARC/
> ,
> I have scheduled a CLARC inception review for September 18. At that
> meeting, the Cluster Architecture Review Committee (CLARC) will review
> the requirements specification. We will provide a public call-in
> number
> for that meeting.
>
> A draft of the project requirements can be found at
> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/colorado/Requirements/. Please
> review
> the requirements and send any comments by September 10 (two weeks from
> today) so that there is time to incorporate them. Note that there are
> five different requirements documents because the Colorado project
> includes several sub-projects.
>
> Also, a few of us have been working on building and bringup of OHAC on
> OpenSolaris 2008.05/2008.11, as well as IPS package conversion. Most
> of
> the status and info can be found on the project wiki. Anyone who is
> interested in helping with these tasks, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Nick
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Re: [ha-clusters-discuss] Colorado project page, requirements,
and development
Posted:
Sep 5, 2008 6:38 AM
in response to: neilg
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Hi Neil,
although I am not Nick, allow me some comments inline :)
Neil Garthwaite wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> After reviewing the project requirements, I just have a few comments.
>
> Referencing http://opensolaris.org/os/project/colorado/Requirements/ColoradoReqSpec.pdf
>
> 1.3.2 Phased Approach and Phases
>
> Looking at the phased alignments with OpenSolaris 2009.04, 2009.10 and
> possibly 2010.04 are there any restrictions to what additional IPS
> packages can be installed. In particular, I'm interested if someone
> could install the xVM packages to create a xVM Dom0 in OpenSolaris so
> that Colorado can coexist within Dom0, i.e. Colorado installed on top
> of a booted Dom0 OpenSolaris.
Since this is already true for Solaris Express and Solaris Cluster
Express today, I don't see why this should not continue to coexist.
Do you have a specific issue in mind?
> Note, I'm aware of 2.2.10 Ease of Use, in particular R46, "Colorado
> will include interfaces to support cluster in a software appliance."
>
> 2.2.5 Agents
>
> R29: Will Samba be included within the optional agents listed in R29.
If the goal was to list all agents where the application is open source
and available for OpenSolaris, then I don't see any issue with adding
Samba there as well.
Nick, can you add Samba to R29?
> 2.2.7 Building and Development
>
> R39: Just to fully understand the terminology being used here.
>
> "[Phases 1-3] Colorado will not be a fork of the Sun Cluster gate. The
> code will be integrated into the main development gate, using #ifdefs
> and macros/flags where appropriate."
>
> After also considering that "Project Colorado is a binary distribution
> of Sun Cluster that runs on the OpenSolaris binary distribution."
>
> Is the "where appropriate" meant to provide a distinction between
> Solaris and OpenSolaris binary distributions.
This means that Colorado will integrate into the existing gate, and any
things that are specific to just Colorado will be integrated in a way
that it can distinguish the conditions.
The result will be that the gate can still get compiled for Solaris 9,
10 and OpenSolaris. Flags will indicate any special conditions that only
apply to e.g. OpenSolaris.
> Referencing http://opensolaris.org/os/project/colorado/Requirements/colorado-haci.pdf
>
> 4.2 Installation
>
> I'm a little confused with the sentence, "Sun Cluster supports 2-node
> clusters with no quorum devices." Is this really meant to be
>
> a) Implies that if no quorum device is used then a quorum server must
> be used.
No.
> b) That Colorado will introduce support for 2-node clusters with weak
> membership.
Yes.
Greets
Thorsten
> I'll take a look at the other requirements at a later date.
>
> Overall, it looks very exciting.
>
> Regards
> Neil
>
>
> On 27 Aug 2008, at 22:17, Nicholas Solter wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> The Colorado project page is finally online at
>> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/colorado/
>>
>> There is also a project wiki at
>> http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Project_Colorado
>>
>> Following the process at
>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ha-clusters/ohac/contribute/CLARC/
>> ,
>> I have scheduled a CLARC inception review for September 18. At that
>> meeting, the Cluster Architecture Review Committee (CLARC) will review
>> the requirements specification. We will provide a public call-in
>> number
>> for that meeting.
>>
>> A draft of the project requirements can be found at
>> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/colorado/Requirements/. Please
>> review
>> the requirements and send any comments by September 10 (two weeks from
>> today) so that there is time to incorporate them. Note that there are
>> five different requirements documents because the Colorado project
>> includes several sub-projects.
>>
>> Also, a few of us have been working on building and bringup of OHAC on
>> OpenSolaris 2008.05/2008.11, as well as IPS package conversion. Most
>> of
>> the status and info can be found on the project wiki. Anyone who is
>> interested in helping with these tasks, please let me know.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nick
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Re: [ha-clusters-discuss] Colorado project page, requirements,
and development
Posted:
Sep 15, 2008 9:18 AM
in response to: frueauf
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Neil,
Thanks for the comments, and sorry for the delay. Thorsten answered most
of your questions. See one comment below.
Thorsten Frueauf wrote:
> Hi Neil,
>
> although I am not Nick, allow me some comments inline :)
>
> Neil Garthwaite wrote:
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>> After reviewing the project requirements, I just have a few comments.
>>
>> Referencing http://opensolaris.org/os/project/colorado/Requirements/ColoradoReqSpec.pdf
>>
>> 1.3.2 Phased Approach and Phases
>>
>> Looking at the phased alignments with OpenSolaris 2009.04, 2009.10 and
>> possibly 2010.04 are there any restrictions to what additional IPS
>> packages can be installed. In particular, I'm interested if someone
>> could install the xVM packages to create a xVM Dom0 in OpenSolaris so
>> that Colorado can coexist within Dom0, i.e. Colorado installed on top
>> of a booted Dom0 OpenSolaris.
>
> Since this is already true for Solaris Express and Solaris Cluster
> Express today, I don't see why this should not continue to coexist.
>
> Do you have a specific issue in mind?
>
>> Note, I'm aware of 2.2.10 Ease of Use, in particular R46, "Colorado
>> will include interfaces to support cluster in a software appliance."
>>
>> 2.2.5 Agents
>>
>> R29: Will Samba be included within the optional agents listed in R29.
>
> If the goal was to list all agents where the application is open source
> and available for OpenSolaris, then I don't see any issue with adding
> Samba there as well.
>
> Nick, can you add Samba to R29?
>
Yes, I will add it.
Thanks,
Nick
>> 2.2.7 Building and Development
>>
>> R39: Just to fully understand the terminology being used here.
>>
>> "[Phases 1-3] Colorado will not be a fork of the Sun Cluster gate. The
>> code will be integrated into the main development gate, using #ifdefs
>> and macros/flags where appropriate."
>>
>> After also considering that "Project Colorado is a binary distribution
>> of Sun Cluster that runs on the OpenSolaris binary distribution."
>>
>> Is the "where appropriate" meant to provide a distinction between
>> Solaris and OpenSolaris binary distributions.
>
> This means that Colorado will integrate into the existing gate, and any
> things that are specific to just Colorado will be integrated in a way
> that it can distinguish the conditions.
>
> The result will be that the gate can still get compiled for Solaris 9,
> 10 and OpenSolaris. Flags will indicate any special conditions that only
> apply to e.g. OpenSolaris.
>
>> Referencing http://opensolaris.org/os/project/colorado/Requirements/colorado-haci.pdf
>>
>> 4.2 Installation
>>
>> I'm a little confused with the sentence, "Sun Cluster supports 2-node
>> clusters with no quorum devices." Is this really meant to be
>>
>> a) Implies that if no quorum device is used then a quorum server must
>> be used.
>
> No.
>
>> b) That Colorado will introduce support for 2-node clusters with weak
>> membership.
>
> Yes.
>
> Greets
> Thorsten
>
>> I'll take a look at the other requirements at a later date.
>>
>> Overall, it looks very exciting.
>>
>> Regards
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> On 27 Aug 2008, at 22:17, Nicholas Solter wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> The Colorado project page is finally online at
>>> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/colorado/
>>>
>>> There is also a project wiki at
>>> http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Project_Colorado
>>>
>>> Following the process at
>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ha-clusters/ohac/contribute/CLARC/
>>> ,
>>> I have scheduled a CLARC inception review for September 18. At that
>>> meeting, the Cluster Architecture Review Committee (CLARC) will review
>>> the requirements specification. We will provide a public call-in
>>> number
>>> for that meeting.
>>>
>>> A draft of the project requirements can be found at
>>> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/colorado/Requirements/. Please
>>> review
>>> the requirements and send any comments by September 10 (two weeks from
>>> today) so that there is time to incorporate them. Note that there are
>>> five different requirements documents because the Colorado project
>>> includes several sub-projects.
>>>
>>> Also, a few of us have been working on building and bringup of OHAC on
>>> OpenSolaris 2008.05/2008.11, as well as IPS package conversion. Most
>>> of
>>> the status and info can be found on the project wiki. Anyone who is
>>> interested in helping with these tasks, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nick
>
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